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landmark1234 6th Nov 2012 08:42

Easyjet flexicrew as proportion of total flight crew
 
Hi

Does anyone know where I could get figures for numbers of flight crew employed by easyjet, and crucially, what proportion of those are flexicrew (ie subcontrated out to Parc or CTC?

thanks

PPRuNeUser0178 6th Nov 2012 08:51

Well BALPA have asked EasyJet this very question, and in the spirit of co-operation and engagement the company said we do not need to know this!

Speevy 6th Nov 2012 08:52

In uk the vast majority of the fos are employed via these schemes. In Europe is slightly different because of the local legislation, but not for all countries, I.e. in Germany almost 80%.

if you are a journalist, then get in touch with BALPA, they would love to give you more details

landmark1234 6th Nov 2012 08:56

thanks guys - no I am not a journalist I am actually doing a research project on their business model. I am very familiar with commercial aviation. Thanks for the responses.

landmark1234 6th Nov 2012 08:59

are almost 80% of FOs in Germany (ie Berlin) flexicrew? That surprises me. Would you say that in the uk 75% of FO's are?

Speevy 6th Nov 2012 09:08

75%in lgw would not surprise me, for the other uk bases, different story.

stakeknife 6th Nov 2012 09:19

In UK over 80% all bases

Invalid User Name 6th Nov 2012 10:15

What sort of research project is it?

I'd be interested to see what you determine the business model is and where it is published.

No doubt some will comment on that, but I've never found a definitive business model published by easyjet. Maybe I'm not looking hard enough...

spider_man 6th Nov 2012 10:29

Are Flexicrew PAYE employees of easyjet, or self employed contractors like at Ryanair (and a couple of other UK operators with summer only, take it or leave it contracts) ...

EpsilonVaz 6th Nov 2012 10:44

Two types, PAYE by Airline Recruitment Limited (which is CTC), and self employed by PARC.

favete linguis 6th Nov 2012 13:11

As a general rule, a worker is:

a) employed if they work for you and don't have the risks of running a business.
b) self-employed if they're in business on their own account and are responsible for the success or failure of their business


An individual is likely to be an employee if most of the following statements apply to them:

1. You can tell them what work to do, as well as how, where and when to do it
2. They have to do their work themselves
3. You can move the worker from task to task
4. They are contracted to work a set number of hours
5. They get a regular wage or salary, even if there is no work available
6. They have benefits such as paid leave or a pension as part of their contract
7. You pay them overtime pay or bonus payments
8. They manage anyone else who works for you

Indications that a worker is self-employed:

1. They can hire someone else to do the work you've given them, or take on helpers at their own expense
2. They can decide what work is done and when, where, or how it is done
3. You pay them an agreed fixed price - it doesn't depend on how long the job takes to finish
4. They can make a loss or a profit

Even if none of the above statements applies, a person is still likely to be self-employed if most of the following applies to them:

1. They use their own money to buy business assets, pay for running costs, etc
2. They are responsible for putting right any unsatisfactory work, at their own expense and in their own time
3. They provide significant tools and equipment that are fundamental for their work


Different rules exist for certain types of work:

For some categories of work, there are different rules from the usual employment status ones for working out how tax and NICs should be deducted from their earnings.

These apply to workers who supply their services through an intermediary (sometimes referred to as IR35) and workers who supply their services through a managed service company.

Contact Approach 6th Nov 2012 13:12

I cannot believe it's got this low.

FANS 6th Nov 2012 13:29


Well BALPA have asked EasyJet this very question, and in the spirit of co-operation and engagement the company said we do not need to know this!
Brilliant. Surely that can't be the same EZY that has the following "core values":



Safety

Our No. 1 priority – no compromises



Teamwork

We’ll get there faster together



Pioneering

Breaking the mould to find new ways and new opportunities



Passionate

We’re ambitious to be the best we can be



Integrity

We mean what we say, and do it

Man Flex 6th Nov 2012 14:29

The roof fell in when the five pillars crumbled from underneath it.

Binder 6th Nov 2012 14:48

Apparently the Director of Safety (qualified Captain) was recently 'tripped in' to strike break in France.

I'm not sure which of the 'five pillars' apply to this action.....

Answers on a post card please.

landmark1234 6th Nov 2012 16:13

so if, at the end of 2011, Easyjet employed 1900 pilots (as stated in the Annual Report), do you think this includes flexicrew?

doniedarko 6th Nov 2012 17:08

Well RYR are 20/80% staff / contractor split ...so if airlines want to compete I guess that's where easy jets goal is ! :eek:

Airbrake 6th Nov 2012 17:13

Binder, is that the Director of Safety that flies once a week on a pleasant 2 sector day to get out the office, and who needs a training captain sat next to him?

That's a semi serious question.

spider_man 6th Nov 2012 17:42

So when was the last time easyjet actually directly employed a pilot on a permanent contract in the UK? i.e. not flexicrew or ctc :ooh:

Binder 6th Nov 2012 18:42

Airbrake,

Semi serious answer.

Yes; And if I was doing the same I would want a trainer with me too.

But if I was going to break the law in another country as a Director of Safety I would sure as hell not go to Marrakech.

Always scope there for a cluster :mad:


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