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jumbojet 18th Jul 2012 16:52

But look how confusing the picture is. Thomas Cook Belgium should be in the "Safe" department & JetAirFly (Belgium) could be printing money!!! but both are let down by the owning groups (TCX &TUI) which clearly need to be in the "un-safe" section.

no sponsor 18th Jul 2012 17:55

Jet2 never made flight crew redundant? Yeah good one....:ugh:

fireflybob 18th Jul 2012 18:15

If you believe what Harry Dent says then probably hardly anything is safe:-


RedBullGaveMeWings 18th Jul 2012 19:00

And what about Alitalia?

Artie Fufkin 18th Jul 2012 19:12


Jet2 never made flight crew redundant? Yeah good one....
Go on then, do tell when (excluding pilots who refused to accept a transfer away from a based that was to close)

No RYR for me 19th Jul 2012 08:33

I liked the question but seeing the answers I realise this thread is like asking my 2 year old to rate the flyability of all commercial aircraft available today. The answers really crack me up! :D

Next thing we know we will see on the PARUNE network (Professional Account Rumours Network) a discussion on who makes the safest derated take off's!:E

The SSK 19th Jul 2012 11:11


AIMINGHIGH123: The big 3 Middle East carries the safest by a mile.
And how many of those three have ever made a profit?

Just asking.

Tubbs 19th Jul 2012 11:53

Loganair - fifty years in the game and in profit for the last decade. Lots of non-discretionary travellers and successfully operating in a niche.

1000ft Cruiser 19th Jul 2012 11:58

All outbound Emirates flights are topping up with fuel bought in UAE, the stuff is probably cheaper than water. They've got a great route structure with a modern and efficient fleet. They wont be making a loss any time soon.

Dave Clarke Fife 19th Jul 2012 14:07

Quote:
AIMINGHIGH123: The big 3 Middle East carries the safest by a mile.
And how many of those three have ever made a profit?

Just asking.


Well this lot for a start.............






Etihad records first ever full-year profit - FT.com

CargoOne 19th Jul 2012 17:15


All outbound Emirates flights are topping up with fuel bought in UAE, the stuff is probably cheaper than water.
Well, if fuel is cheap in UAE then for Emirates & Etihad only. For everybody else the fuel price there is quite up to the world market, with consideration for less costs on transport and volume.

If you look at Emirates annual accounts, they claim fuel is around 34% within the cost structure, which is about right percentage for any European or US airline. Now the question is whether you really believe Emirates reports?

Mr Good Cat 20th Jul 2012 10:49


All outbound Emirates flights are topping up with fuel bought in UAE, the stuff is probably cheaper than water. They've got a great route structure with a modern and efficient fleet. They wont be making a loss any time soon.
NOT TRUE about the fuel I'm afraid.

As a 777 skipper the only flights I can remember tankering on are Tehran and Cairo, which are usually tankering-limited anyway on the old 777-200 non-ER due to residual centre tank fuel with max ZFWs.

Not sure where you got that info from.

VeroFlyer 20th Jul 2012 11:35

Pan American Airlines....definitely safe! :}

The truth is is any one safe? Just because an airline is the biggest, has been around the longest, makes the most money etc. doesn't make it bullet proof. Maybe on paper, but it only takes a major incident or world event to turn the tide.
Aviation history is littered with names of airlines who in their heyday where probably thought to survive the toughest of climates.

Food for thought, an interesting discussion though! :)


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