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Breakthesilence 8th May 2012 16:40

DHL Leipzig
 
Hi there,

I've been called for an interview in DHL. Base would be LEJ (Leipzig).

Roster is one of my primary points. Could someone working there (or have worked there) write here a sample roster/duty shift?

Is it feasible to commute? I don't mean a fixed roster (it is stated in the interview package it's not fixed) but have an idea of how the OFFs are spread in a month.

Thanks!

EAM 8th May 2012 16:46

EAT or DHL UK?
Sounds like DHL UK.

funnypilot 8th May 2012 17:37

i'd say EAT
(you're lucky, i send mail on regular basis and everytime the answer is either "we dont plan to recruit " or "we just recruited new entrants".i must be very unlucky :{;) )

this might help, it's quite recent
http://www.pprune.org/freight-dogs/4...er-career.html

good luck :ok:

inner 8th May 2012 17:43

I thinks he means dhl air uk.

I applied last year with eat. I got an mail that i was meeting all the requirements except that f@cking german requirement. So i was not considered anymore.
It is time that others ban german pilots.

swissmen 8th May 2012 19:58

@inner

Stay calm buddy! If you want to apply with AF you have to speak French, Alitalia will ask for Italian and SAS will ask you to learn a Nordic language. Why is DHL (owned by Deutsche Post AG) as a German airline not legitimate to ask for German language skills?

Feel free to buy some books and learn this so called f@cking German... stay tuned!

horsebox 8th May 2012 21:00

For DHL Air UK (757) = Roster can be a bit random. Typically trips start at Leipzig, and will involve a bunch of flights, and finish in Leipzig several days later. Then a series of days off - maybe 4 or 5, sometimes less sometimes more.

There is a block roster of 9 on 5 off but it is over subscribed.

Commute is possible, but can be tiring and frustrating at times. Other times it can be straightforward, come out to Leipzig twice a month easy - really depends on your roster, and that can be quite random..

New block roster is in the pipeline, like a cheque in the post...

To add if it is Dhl uk , then there is no requirement to speak German or any other language apart from English.

His dudeness 9th May 2012 09:04

inner, as the swissmen says, other airlines do ask their native languages as requirements. I was turned down by a Scandinavian operator cause of that.

Get over it or study.

inner 9th May 2012 11:28

Hey,

I got over it. It is just frustrating. There is always an excuse why they dont hire you. Makes you gonna think why to stay in aviation, dont you think???

pudoc 9th May 2012 15:56

Not really.

If you want to be a doctor or lawyer in Germany...guess what. And you'll probably of had to have studied in Germany.

Being a pilot gives you a lot more freedom in where you can live in the world then what a lawyer gets.

despegue 9th May 2012 16:14

It was certainly not the choice of nearly anybody within EAT to become a German airline, from the Belgian quality outfit it once was.
Now, the gestapo has taken over and with their xenophobic behaviour want to root out everything non German, including Belgian instructors:mad:
Eat is NOT a National airline, it is International and the lingua franka in aviation is only English. Eat aircraft can be based wherever in Europe, and has absolutely NO German heritage. It is simply racism.

pudoc 9th May 2012 16:44

EAT is a subsidiary of DHL, which is German. I thought EAT ceased operations anyway and now only fly under DHL?

I wish it was English only as well so there's more room for us, but we don't have a leg to stand on when we disagree. I can understand why pax carrying airlines want a local language, so the pilot can make announcements to the passengers. Don't understand why cargo airlines follow, most Germans I know speak amazing English so ATC/ground crew won't be a problem.

Just like KLM, they are looking after their own nationals. KLM said they won't hire any more non-Dutch people.

inner 9th May 2012 16:54

Hi

Many years ago i did a selection for eat in brussels. The selection was just a small test, interview and a simcheck. They did not care about the small test, only the interview and simcheck (which i failed :E ). Eat was then in Belgium a really nice company and also well known for their good terms and conditions.
But since it moved to germany, it only got down. Dlr test, german speaking requirement, low pay. And now apparently getting rid of belgian instructors.
But hey, they think that the world is turning around germany these days.

captplaystation 9th May 2012 19:02

The Elections in France on Sunday may slow the revolution rate a little.

de facto 10th May 2012 02:55


Just like KLM, they are looking after their own nationals. KLM said they won't hire any more non-Dutch people
You mean AIR FRANCE?:E

wind check 10th May 2012 10:12

When EAT was belgium the recruiting department prefered applicants who spoke french and dutch, and as any belgium company you had to pay 50% income tax.

thib017 11th May 2012 10:15

They hired new guys with low experience and not german speaking!

The roster are exhausted, commuting is almost impossible, expect to fly 7 night in a row and have 3 days off.
Forget if you want to go back to Belgium as the jumpseats are for the Belgian contract first.

Excpect to fly 250/300 hrs / year! But with duty of 1000 hrs!
Only night flight, no bidding system and if you do a request, be sure that you will never get it!
Low base salary with sector pay.

Otherwise, very good and nice people to fly with!

Nice company to start or finish your career...

Knee Trembler 11th May 2012 11:02

"They hired new guys with low experience and not german speaking!"

Only in one case and he is a former Airbus engineer with specific experience on the A300-600.

"The roster are exhausted, commuting is almost impossible, expect to fly 7 night in a row and have 3 days off."

That is not a fair representation. 7 nights can and does happen but the minimum days off are 11 per month and you often gain a number of rest periods if the last flight lands after midnight. My last roster was 7 on, 5 off, 4 on, 4 off, 4 on, 4 off (admittedly with a few leave days).

"Forget if you want to go back to Belgium as the jumpseats are for the Belgian contract first."

That is definitely true. Same goes for most UK destinations too.

"Excpect to fly 250/300 hrs / year! But with duty of 1000 hrs!"

Also true, making it a bad choice for low houred, career minded FOs. If you want lots of hours and a quick command stay away, you won't be happy here. Almost all FOs at EAT have many thousands of hours and up to 11 years experience.

"Only night flight, no bidding system and if you do a request, be sure that you will never get it!"

Again, not entirely true. About 85% is night flying (at least on the A300). There are quite a few weekend charters and the odd day flight in the week too. The day flights are likely to increase if and when we start flying longhaul.

Can only speak for myself, but have so far got every request I asked for (but then I don't ask for that many).

"Low base salary with sector pay."

Depends what you call low. PPJN figures are fairly accurate. Also, you get sector pay AND the same per FDP so most of the 1000 hrs per year are also paid on top of the basic. The company provide beds in Leipzig so you can rest between flights. This is also FDP so you are paid to sleep!

"Otherwise, very good and nice people to fly with!"

Quite agree, although you need to watch your back at the moment. There are a lot of people looking to get a foot on the ladder in the company and don't mind who they tread on to get there. Of all the companies I've worked for this is biggest collection of 'individuals', but that will hopefully change as things settle down.

"Nice company to start or finish your career..."
:ok:

thib017 11th May 2012 11:18

I can only talk about the 757 routes ;) with a Belgian contract!
And on the 757, it's 99% of night flight!

Also, there is 4 news F/O with no experience and not german speaking who are starting their training on the 757.


Happy to see that some guys can manage to sleep in this noisy and non respectful sleep facilities:E

Knee Trembler 11th May 2012 14:42

Sleeping is never a problem, it's the staying awake that's the hard bit for me;)

See you round the coffee machine sometime:).

pudoc 11th May 2012 15:45

200-300 hrs per year! Seriously? Why? Wouldn't it be easier for the company to make their pilots do 600-700 hours a year and get rid of some pilots?


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