There are quite a few very experienced copilots waiting for their command as we speak so I would say 3 years is an optimistic figure.
Consider 4 to 5 years and you will avoid any disappointment.

Time to command for those with the experience will depend on how many Captains leave, how many new acft we get, how many contract/DEC's are employed.

Try the email from ppjn, thats the one leading you direct to HR of DHL UK.
Bond is 20.000 GBP and 3 years, destinations out of LEJ are the same as for EAT. Chances? Difficult to say.
When did you do the assessment for EAT?

ValK
 

Not being arsey - but there's loads of stuff on pprune about DHK and associated Ts, Cs and routes etc. Use the search function?

Any news for those who went through the DHL/UK assessment?

What exactly do you want to know?

Just wondering if anyone who passed the assessment got a call for their starting dates.

passed the assessment in march, will start in september as DEC.

Hi all,

question: the requirement for first officer to speak German from at least B2 level is still valid? I can't afford yet B2 but I'm on the right way.
It seems more A300-600 will join the fleet..means more chances?

Tschuss

No German language requirement for DHK - fortunately for me. Can't answer for EAT LEJ.

Hi guys. I'm searching for current information about EAT. I applied last year through career.aero. Called the lady in Hamburg last week, according to their info no selection at the moment. Any news from inside? Will there be hiring in the near future? My current employer will most probably cease operation next year, so good chance to get unemployed :}
According to ppjn the have 9 A306 by now, and still 14 on order, can that be true? I always thought they will get 13 in total.

Thanks for any info and help!

Hi B-B, from your ex-colleague;-).

No, sadly ppjn is incorrect. Total order is 18 aircraft. At present 14 are destined for EAT, the remaining four are still TBC but most likely to go to Hong Kong.

All recruitment / promotion is on hold pending further economic / fleet developments. A few short term contractors are training at present in order to relieve the pressure on training staff, but they are not likely to be needed beyond mid 2013.

But then that's just this week's plan and things change rapidly here;-).

Watch this space.

I see that EAT are recruiting again through career.aero, however if you have already applied it will not allow you to update or submit another application!?


This is frustrating, any ideas?!

Does anybody have an email address for EAT/DHL for the First Officer recruitment. Career Aero website is extremely frustrating and won't allow any new applications or updating existing ones!


Any help much appreciated.

Hello all,

I have been invited to an assesment at the end of this month in Hamburg Germany with EAT. I applied via career dot aero about two years ago recently called and updated my online CV and today received an invitation.

I have a few questions that I would hope people could help me out with PM if you want.
The assesment is extremely tough I hear,DLR test by interpersonel! how can you best prepare for this test? ant how hard is it really? I failed a compass test in the past, but no prep.

what does an FO take home every month I have 1400 hrs and about 900 737 cassic.

Is commuting still completely impossible I live in the UK but would happily pay an airfare home.

are all new FO's starting on the A300? I would be 50/50 about taking this type as there are very little opportunities to work on this type and with command being 11 years.....

also where do most pilots live while in leipzig is it a nice city?

also a break down of the interview would really be greatly appreciated

EAT
 

Hello all,
here just a few tips for EAT:
- an F/O takes home 4000-5000€ (before tax!) a month. Not the best, but you start on a widebody and you're in Europe. In Germany, the company is after LH, TUI or Condor one of the best options you can choose!

- Communting is hard, but people do it. Everything up to 3-4h by Car is possible. Many of the new hires moved to Leipzig, not the worst city to live in.

- you have standby60 and standby airport, which means you have to have an apartment nearby. Many people share them.. A few people also live in Berlin, and depending were you live, you can make it in 90min to LEJ.

- you do yourself a favor (a very big one!!!) by saying during the interview, that you want to move to Leipzig. They can choose between a huge variety of pilots.

- not all the new hires come to the 300, some go to the 57. But, I would prefer the 300 and you´ll like it.

- Roster: different from fleet to fleet, but you can expect on the 300 7on/7off. It is true, that you make only 300h a year. You have a lot of night flying. You fly flights in Europe, but there is also one A300 right now in Bahrain (although you can say no to these OPS, people do it).

Good morning,

Just got an invitation for the assessment next week Monday. Short notice-well but ok. Somebody recently attended the assessment and can write me a short review?
Thanks in advance

What hours etc do you have?

Typical low hour. 250 hrs MCC/JOC. German

@lowpassglider

How can commuting be difficult if the roster is 7 on 7 off? that would in my opinion make commuting very very easy... unless there are a few sbys added in to those 7 off, I have an interview monday I have jet experience, could you please send me on any tips for the interview? I would really appreciate it

From the recruitment website:

Simple as that, EAT roster is NOT 7on 7 off.
It is a flexible roster.

Can somebody tell me a typical roster for the 757 from DHL UK out of LEJ?
I would like to commut, 4 h by car, is that possible?

Thank you for every information

To make it short. Yes you can commute by car within Germany very easily.
Where do you live? If there is a flight, you can even jumpseat.
There is no typical roster, on the flex roster you can get something like 5-6 days on and 3-5 days off, but as its says, its flexible.
After some time you can also go on the block roster, which is more or less 1 week on 1 week off.

Hi EAM,

Thank you for this information.
I am living in the vicinity of Düsseldorf.

So you could jumpseat to Köln, a bit busy time to time, but generally no problem.

Hi EAM,

can you tell me something about the interview?
Will they do a technical quiz?

Thanks.

I heard they are asking multiple-choice theory questions on the following matters:

Performance
Principle of flight
Meteorology
Reglementations

Can someone confirm?

I also wonder if they ask pure EASA ATPL questions (from the database ECQB0..), or if they have self-made questions. If someone has a feeling about that, feel free to comment ;)

Thanks a lot guys !

EAT does have ATPL questions, group exercise, etc, DHK only has an interview and a SIM.

Resuming this post after months and hope as understood that we are speaking about Dhl AIR UK.
As per contract this are the new basics:

Base £32,141 Fixed
Year 1 £37,882 Fixed
Year 2 £43,621 Fixed
Year 3 Join Type Rated at Year 3 - £60,955 (2016/17)

What I want to understand, base is £32,141 and then after 1 year will be £37,882? or what ???
Cause year One is £37,882 so I don't understand why this £32,141 above?
And in year 3 is £60,955, again what doeas it mean "join Type rated at year 3"????


-So at the end of the month what is the average net income, after german social charges, and taxes!

-It is useful to be bond for 3 years for a 757 nowadays?

THanks for any help&Suggestion you may have.

So this will be for a LEP joiner. You join on the Base salary, after one year it goes up to the year 1 level, after 2 years to the year 2 level etc.

After 3 years you join the main incremental pay scale.

Can't answer any of your other questions about income or the bond I'm afraid.

You don't say what nationality you are or where you live.

hope this helps

So as I understood , for year 1 fixed will be as per above, thanks!

Low Experience Pilot

deltahotel,
I have 1200 TT approx, 800 Jet over 40T, and in DHL AIR you'll be leaving n Leipzig, paying your social charges and taxes in Germany, so I asked about the average net income someone should expect.
Applied many years ago when I was really starving and now that I'm still flying and building time, I get the call! maybe not right time, as in 3 months I could join with the 1500 TT as FO NTR!!!!

Are you in DHL AIR Uk? or Applied=?

Ok. Would you be prepared to relocate to Lej? I can't offer any advice on whether to hang on for a while because I'm not involved in the recruitment process so don't know what demographic they are looking for. What sort of aviation are you in at the moment? Worth leaving?

Good luck whatever you decide, other than to say it's not a bad job to have. Personal opinion.

Sure!
I love flying and is a life stile for me, and on top of that I've always dreamt to be in the cargo, and to fly during night...taugh maybe but is what i like.
I'm leaving close to Germany, as I know LEJ is not so "happy" place, I've been in worst places before.
Then I think I will not have any problem to relocate and to start a new adventure over there and maybe in my days off to focus in some other project, maybe learn this taugh language!!!
Anyway if you have any tips or advice for the sleection please let me now.
thanks!

With your experience in don't think you will start as a LEP but as a FO, but I don't know the exact requirements for that.
You will pay social security in Germany but you don't need to pay tax in Germany if you don't live here.
I don't live in Leipzig, but it is a very nice City to live.

As per DHL AIR UK requirement;
-non type rated Cadets: ATPL Frozen
-Non type rated FO: 1500 TT with 500 on a/c over 40T
-Type rated FO : 1500 TT
-Capt. as required

Are you currently flying? Then you will easily make the requirements for FO as it will take a while before you will start, in case you are successful.

yeah I'm fying in the 738 but not in a low cost career:p , so very low hours in these months for now..but hopefully reach the minimums and in any case I hope if joining as cadet, to not wait 3 years for payment raise etc.

By the way anybody knows the updated long haul destination from LEJ?
What about the LEP, they will fly overseas?