Vueling hiring 50 to 70 pilots
 

Rumours of Vueling will be hiring at least 50 to 60 pilots in the near future.

They will open the next job offering on the Vueling website, they closed a convocatoria.

Due to upcoming growth and pilots going to Iberia Express.

Rumours is that those with at least 500 hours A-320 experience have priority.

Better if you are Spanish and-or must have at least Level 4-5 Spanish

Interesting no news on Iberia express hiring

Vueling already opened the hiring on 1 December and closed it on 10 December. They have already called possible candidates and conducted assessments. They didn't specify hiring minimums and have interviewed guys with everything from fresh CPLs to type rated guys with several thousand hours.

They said it is due to internal growth. And they definitely were asking for both Spanish and English languages in the candidates.

hiring minimums ?
 

Thanks Zondaracer,

Ok. Was referring to next phase.
Not much information on their webpage ?


Arent they going to specify criteria for their low or no experience hirings ?

Or high experience pilots ?

Like British that have different groups well defined.

Hope they hire some SFO and high experience pilots for their own average experience level has really dropped big time, with all those cadets they hired with 200 hours really damaged their reputation.

Hiring mínima?
 

Wasn't the required mínima just to have good wiring and the pocket full of money.

....and by the way, why would a vueling pilot join that insidious new born whatever type of thing, just to end up with the same or worse conditions.
wouldn't be better to join the real IB instead of colaborating to downgrade even more the Job conditions?

JH Rocks wrote :

"Hope they hire some SFO and high experience pilots for their own average experience level has really dropped big time, with all those cadets they hired with 200 hours really damaged their reputation."

I would add, not only their reputation but even worse OUR reputation has already been damaged by Vueling's FO accepting a HUNGRY pay of 800e x month. Yes you read right, 800e x month. What a shame.....:D

Would not be surprised if Veuling pilots got flight time, experience, paid off training bond and then departed for Qatar and Emirates... Certainly no career opportunity at Veuling with the terrible pay and conditions. It is merely a stepping stone to some other carriers with bigger equipment and better pay.

Iberia strike and Supply and Demand
 

I agree with you both Brimbau and Iver but

According to a good source it is 800 Euros is base pay and low hour pilots make about 2100 Euros and if they fly a lot around 2700 Euros Net. It is on the hours they fly and they fly a lot. Yes if they get sick the pay is really pathetic with this poor base pay. Not saying it is good or aceptable, sadly people accept this pay to be in Spain and good ones go to Emirates. Sadly pilots much accept responsablity for for signing up. What choice does a guy have when others accept it bringing down the market.

You see this discussion so many times on PPRUNE

Vueling management does not understand the value of hiring decent highly experienced pilots. That hiring pilots with experience increases the value of the company and improves the image and Flightsafety in front of the paying public.

Why the hell do they think airlines have SFO ´s ?

Understand direct entry high experienced pilots get paid more at Vueling, due to a recent agreement. ?? The senior FO´s at Vueling have better conditions and pay.

Is Easyjet much better where pilots have to pay all this money to CTC ?
Those who go to Easyjet from CTC pay a lot more to get in than these Vueling pilots.

Iberia has a hiring freeze as they want pilots to enter with cheap and miserable conditions this is why they are starting Iberia express. This is why the Iberia pilots are going on strike as they had Clickair and now Clickair II for very low cost pilots

Iberia hasn't hired pilots since 2000. The job market for pilots is saturated in Spain. I read that it is estimated that 3500 spanish pilots don't have a flying job.

It is easy to say that pilots are bringing down the industry but when there are so many pilots and the next guy will do it for less, airline management really has the upper hand.

For those who can understand spanish (the other ones should try to translate with google or anything like that), it is worth reading, but really, really depressing. In this link below there is a guys saying that they are already a group of 10 to buy ASAP an A320 type rating for 21000 euros including base check and lodging (they are very proud of this negociated group cost!!!:yuk:), they reckon that they will be able to apply in January to Iberia Express and Vueling because they will hold an A320 rating :yuk::ugh::ugh::ugh::ugh:


Read it. This is reality. Those bloody assholes are putting the market very low. :ugh:


here is the link:
Type rating A320 muy barato en Europa - Foros Extracrew

It is absolutely sad.

Hah, yeah I saw that earlier. To sum up, the guy said that they will get a discount on the type rating if they can put together a class of 10. They will also have their base training done with Vueling, so he thinks it will get his foot in the door. Another poster said that he is quite foolish.

Remember this??
 

Vueling removes days off for its pilots
 

With all the expansion at Vueling and hiring, Vueling has unilaterally decided To take away days off violating the collective agreement according to the union delegates. ( Of 12 days off a month in the collective agreement management unilaterally reduced pilots days off to 11, by one day, )

Vueling's new chief operating officer stood up and walked out of negotiations according to its union representatives.

According to delegates the COO walked out when permanent contracts were discussed. It appears that the new manager is pushing the union towards a difficult situation in pilot- management relations stated in the general meeting this week'

The Vueling collective agreement states that pilots are to be hired with primarily fixed permanent contracts, meanwhile hires all new hires with temporary contracts.

How can you not have days off,or wht would you work for such a company.????:ugh:

sooo.... any news ? whats going on with vueling? they r hiring or not?
anyone with info about it?

Approx. 200 pilots joining this year.

Yes...thats the news in general......does anyone got an invitation for an interview etc.?

Can anyone with better Spanish proficiency confirm that Vueling, in this job offer, demands a "Catalan" level 4 proficiency, but only for non-Spanish nationals?

Vueling - Bolsa de Trabajo

That seems really strange to me, since I don't think you can get a Catalan level 4 written on your licence anywhere in Europe. Also, I thought it was forbidden in the EU to discriminate based on the grounds of nationality.

They don't ask "catalan", they ask "Castellano" which is in fact the "real" name of spanish language...

Thanks, I did not know that.

But then, another silly question: are there Spanish nationals that don't speak Spanish? Because this clause about a level 4 "only for non-Spanish nationals" would mean, either you can learn Spanish or you can also just get a Spanish passport. :}

Who cares? Do you want to pay for a type rating for a 6 month contract with a crap monthly basic salary of 700€? Unstable roster minimum rest and maximum duty. They'll kick you out anyway after 6 months, in order for them to recruit new cadets that will pay for a type rating.

"Who cares? Do you want to pay for a type rating for a 6 month contract with a crap monthly basic salary of 700€? Unstable roster minimum rest and maximum duty. They'll kick you out anyway after 6 months, in order for them to recruit new cadets that will pay for a type rating."

Are you sure about that? How do you know they'll kick you out after 6 months? It seems Vueling is growing and as far as I heard they ordered new airplanes so I think they really need additional crew for the future.

One of my colleagues told me the deal offered today, and you would need an arse lined with titanium to put up with that!
Still some spaniards are used to a bull horn up the rear ;)

Can anyone confirm (with some accuracy ) take-home payment (total) for Capt after taxes, I had heard as little as €4500.

Not interested to join, just interested to know the figures my current employer may be using one day as a benchmark :hmm:

Because 50 guys from the recruitment of last year are just kicked out and will be replaced by new cadets this year. It's a really nice cash factory.

Well what a s:mad:!
I hope the guys that are kickked out at least now have the minimum hours on type to apply for a serius airline if still available in europe !

There are ? ? ? any number of FO's on the market with 500 or a few more hrs on A320/737.

Sad to say, the only job you are likely to find is possibly worse than the one you have been dumped from, as you are no longer even classified as a "revenue source", you are now merely a "financial/regulatory inconvenience".
Think they see you as "Tommorows Captain" ? grow up & open your eyes.
As long as people continue to pay for not only TR , but even LTng, this situation will never get better.

If only people could act a little bit in unison & use the supposed "intelligence" required to obtain an ATPL & come to the conclusion to tell those sh1tty companies to "take a hike", this situation could be solved.

Everyone is keen to slag off Ryanair ( & indeed not without reason ) but (for the moment at least ) if you pay the TR there you DO have an ongoing contract, it may not be the best (still better than the cr@p Vueling pay ) , but at least it is ongoing.

Dumping people after one year is just as much a reflection on how gullible the candidates are, as to how cynical the airline is. . .sorry, but that is a fact.

Current processing times for becoming a nationalized Spanish citizen is a 6 year process, I know this from first hand experience. When you reach the end of the process, there is now an exam to see how well you have integrated into Spanish society which includes being able to speak Spanish.

It is possible that there are some Spanish passport holders out there who don't speak Spanish, forexample if you get Spanish citizenship through heritage rights and you don't speak Spanish, but you might end up looking quite foolish in an interview as they conduct them mostly in Spanish at Vueling.

Basically, Vueling are trying to hire mostly Spaniards by requiring the language requirement.

As far as the six month contract goes, Vueling has been doing that with their cabin crew for quite a long time, hence why they never stop hiring cabin crew. A senior flight attendant at Vueling explained it to me like this: "Vueling is like a bus, but the bus never gets full because the backdoor is always open."

Captplaystation

Very easy to take such a view if one already has a decent job (which I presume you do?)

A very different kettle of fish to take such a principled view when one is looking for one's first job in the industry, wouldn't you agree?

It is not a case of being principled, it is the fact that I am astonished that year after year / course after course , people walk into this not with their eyes open , but with them firmly closed.

If you see, for successive years, FO's being dumped on the market with circa 500 hrs on type & virtually no chance to get further employment, why not find another method, or another company to donate your money to ? crass stupidity is not making mistakes, it is failing to learn from the mistakes of others that are staring you in the face. :ugh: