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kapteinidus 15th Oct 2011 01:50

THY - Turkish Airlines
 
Last year I was offered a job as F/O on 737 with THY.

But due to .... ? I decided to stay with my present employer.

Now I regret, I should have taken the offer when I had a chance.

Does enyone know if/when THY plan to recruit again ?

holiday5 15th Oct 2011 02:50

Call human resourse....they will give you the right answer.:)

victormus 15th Oct 2011 06:25

You made the right choice for sure.

Consider yourself lucky you stayed away:D

Its NOT a good company to work for and forget about T/C and OMA they change and disregard any rule and conditions they feel like without notice.

I would say 95% of expats in THY are unhappy and looking to join other outfit ASAP.

Furthermore very few if any FO will get there contract extended even though all expats where promised 3 years extention.

THY Captains saying that about 300 cadets waiting to start linetraining and many FO's are waiting for upgrade.

THY have lied all the way about T/C to get expats join well known that they only needed us for short term:ugh:

They are lightyears away to be a real Flag Carrier regarding working conditions. The company run there employees by fear and not respect.

Forget about there fancy commercials to work for them different story:\

Best of luck:)

B737NG 15th Oct 2011 08:06

You missed nothing except trouble and problems
 
The moral of the Pilots on all Types is going down as the situation within the operation changed quickly. Some A340 Expats did not get the contract renwed, some B777 Captains got a notifcation that they will be terminated due to age now 63 and not 65. Other Guy´s having now Visa issues and got terminated immidiatly.

The A320 / B737 guy´s hardly get home on a regular base and the ID90 deal is over after one year, so the gate is open and with the drive of the devaluation of the TRY against the USD,EUR, STG or other mayor currencies the flush is accelerating people out. You will see 35% loss between January and August after exchange your wages into other currencies.

Yes there are more Airplanes on order and yes there are more Pilots to be qualified to turn the Metal around but the organisation and the cooperation internally and externally is not in a row and that is cost incentive and needs to be straightend soon. If not even a legacy carrier can face problems that hurts him seriously.

Administration is a obstacle for itself, you get nothing done in a short time and time is not money for them, yet !!! It is something that is not in the deep consideration of all involved.

Is the Turkish DGCA a JAR member ? How come they still demand validations for the Jar-Licnece holders? How come they still demand medicals from Turkish AME´s and do not accept others JAR-medicals?

I know from serious sources that especially F/O´s from A320 / B737´s are looking somewhere else as they do not see a carreer path and upgrade will be questionable. There are +300 Turkish F/O´s waiting for line training and alot are also ready for upgrade. So if you would have joined you would have the bottom or below.

Going home to visit the Families in between flights is almost impossible for the A320 / B737 Pilots. So you either take the risk and move all to Yeshilköy, Ataköy or Floriya close to the Airport and far from the education opportunities, you have a shorter commute daily, or you look for a residence further into Town and take the longer daily commute instead.

There are alot of other obstacles you face, daily. Roster? Something what changes like the bid on the stock market, you can get call´s a few times per day for the next day and you dont know where you ending up flying to exactly until you sit in your plane. Publishing is two or three days before and of the Calender Month, theoretically, don´t bother what it states, it will change anyhow, so stop making plans.

Good things: Sure there are really good things, the food on the plane is outstanding, carefull you can gain weight weekly. The climate amongst the Cockpit - Cabin Crew is nice, good fellows to fly with, relaxed and layed back. If there is a problem it will be solved with the statement: No problem, we fix it somehow. One helps the other.

The only problem: The real problems are not taken care of, that´s a problem.

Fly safe and land happy

NG

captplaystation 16th Oct 2011 15:32

What a difference 8mths makes :hmm: Reading your post ( # 52) on the other Turkish thread, I did find you a tad optimistic, having had the hilarity of attending selection :rolleyes: with these jokers when they started recruiting back in the start of 09.
It would be too cruel to say "I could have told you so ", so lets just say that I am not even slightly surprised by your change in stance as regards these clowns.


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