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Chris Pickwick 27th Nov 2010 20:28

Yes I'm a pilot.... but can't find flying work..
 
Just want to get an idea of how many guys out there without a flying job and how you've been surviving and bringing $ home...

I'll start the ball rolling....

2500TT (1200 738). Out of work 15 months. Wife and 2 kids. Currently driving a nice shiny delivery van Mon-Sat. For how long only God knows .....:confused:

Yourselves?

Chris

LH-OAB 28th Nov 2010 06:42

2500 TT (700 TP). Out of work 14 months, single, unskilled minimum wage job Mon-Fri, instructing at weekends.

I'm now saying "I used to be a pilot"

fade to grey 28th Nov 2010 08:50

there must be hundreds if not thousands - shame to see people with TP and jet time without a gig.

Look on the bizjet forum, there is a thread for those looking for work.

Hopefully as industry T+Cs continue to decline, alot of people will think twice about spunking £80000 on a far fethched dream,

Johnny_come_lately 28th Nov 2010 09:21

Try working from home. Work for yourself, when you want. Get to some of the high street banks and enquire, as some of them have a list of reputable longstanding companies, they recommend.

Just a suggestion.

KyleRB 28th Nov 2010 10:08

Sorry to hear about all this! :(

Chris P and others

Have you tried all the agencies like Parc, Rishworth etc. I reckon if you are prepared to live the commuter life for a couple of years there should be work in the Far East or West Africa. There is work going for experienced guys on 737, A320s and heavier stuff. Some don't even want type ratings. What about Emirates (if you have jet time)?

I am sure there is a web site called: latest pilot jobs . com

Good luck all!

SVoa 28th Nov 2010 10:38

There is so much negativety on this forum. I really do understand and feel for people who have so many hours and cant find jobs. However!! I know SOOOOOO many people who have a steady career, a wife, and numerous kids, and one morning wake up, quite their job, get a massive loan to do their pilot training, and then cant find a job and piss and moan on here all day long that their lives are messed up!! These people, im sorry but I do NOT feel sorry for. Its everyones decision what they do with their lives and their money. But do not sit here all day long pissing and moaning about how the aviation industry is so messed up, because you took a leap of faith and it went bad. I personally know many guys and gals who have recently found jobs without paying to fly. Yes, type rating they had to pay, and some just got bonded by the airline.

In aviation today the fitest survive, and the fitest are those who have contacts, and who have a life status where they can afford to wait it out without getting locked up in jail because they owe so much money!!! (Im not saying you guys who have posted above are the ones who fit what I am stating in this post) But common, im sure we all know people who have made this stupid decision when the stakes are alot higher (wife, kids bla bla....)

Its not as bad as it seems, there are airlines hiring today..

SVoa

dustyprops 28th Nov 2010 13:46

S Voa, what the hell was the point of that post. About the most useless one i've seen in a while.

Good luck guys, matter of time.

Chris Pickwick 28th Nov 2010 13:48

Tried the agencies but the fact i'm not current, or can't find someone to allow me to get current, is not helpful.....

Chris

KyleRB 28th Nov 2010 14:01

How about getting yourself current? Nothing ventured nothing gained!:ok:

Apart from making you "ready immediate" :p it also shows potential employers (and agencies!) you have initiative and are not content to just do nothing!

I personally would never let my type rating lapse more than year.

Good luck!

Chris Pickwick 28th Nov 2010 14:06

my TR is current, I didn't let it lapse.

But I have not flown on type for the last 6/12 months etc ..

Chris

d105 28th Nov 2010 14:43

Exactly the reason why I'm studying as an engineer next to my pilot job. It'll take me years to get the degree though. But the days of 45 year carreers with your national carrier are gone and will never come back, at least for the better part of all pilots. My advice is simple: even when you're employed, make sure you can quit aviation without hesitation the next day. If you can't, see it as a warning sign, because if you're forced to leave, you're in trouble.

portsharbourflyer 28th Nov 2010 17:34

Laid off from my tuboprop job back in the middle of 2008. Only took me a day to line up an engineering contract. Really miss flying for a living, but now earning more than double what I use to earn as a first officer on turboprops.

darkroomsource 28th Nov 2010 17:42


What good job’s can you get as an ex-pilot?
In this economy, and the way things are going, in the future, especially within the USA, the same jobs you can get as an ex-engineer, or an ex-scientist, or an ex-computer programmer, or an ex-manager, or an ex-accountant.

Although I don't think any of us want to be ex-anything.

Uncle Wiggily 28th Nov 2010 19:13

4000 TT, Typed B744, B747, LR-Jet, IA-Jet. Not enough time in B744 to meet min. hour requirement in Type for Parc or any other contracts. Not current in other Types. Have not had flying job for 2.5 years. Married, kids, drive taxi for since 2009.

Herod 28th Nov 2010 20:21

d105 makes a good point. I was lucky and only had four employers in 39 years, and of those one was for 24 years and one for 12. Things went pretty well for me, but I did sometimes wonder what I would have done if it had all gone pear-shaped. Get another string for your bow if you possibly can.

Borealis 29th Nov 2010 00:33

To you guys who´ve been posting here lately; Hang in there! The snowball has started to roll, and it should only be a matter of (short amount of) time that your experience becomes significant.

737bomar 29th Nov 2010 00:39

To all those looking for work , good luck and hang in there....I hope the economy is turning around soon

Finals19 29th Nov 2010 07:10

1300TT, majority MEP air taxi, no turbine tho. No proper commercial work for nearly 2.5 yrs although I maintain current class and IR ratings as I am a strong believer in keeping the faith and that things will turn.

I just keep in contact with the regionals TP operators, keep current (although not multi!) and in the mean time have an ok job with a telecoms company (say ok but salary only in the low 20K's). Wife, no kids.

fireflybob 29th Nov 2010 07:45

It's called life! I had a period of just over 3 years where I worked in the railway industry as a signaller as I couldn't find gainful employment in aviation as a pilot. And I was very experienced with over ten years in training but had had a break from flying due to a family bereavement.

I know from personal experience that it can be very challenging when you want to fly but the jobs aren't there but you just have to make the best of it and go find something to do which keeps the wolf from the door. Thankfully I got back into flying again but the experience I had working in another industry taught me a lot and I now appreciate what I am doing now even more.

Jaydubya 29th Nov 2010 08:37

4500TT Experience on Classic and NG, Not flown for 26 months Jobs are out there but lack of recency and age (47 and FO) going against me.
But caddying at Golf club, good fun and money not too bad until things pick up. feel like the worst is over Airlines are recruiting again.


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