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Let me say from the outset that I am not in the training section but am an ordinary line pilot. I have no idea what they are after this time in terms of experience. All I can say is that last time around there was a mix of new joiners. Some were A320 rated but most not. The majority were integrated (Oxford and a few Jerez) but also a fair share of modular to. The rated people had a varied spread of hours from the bare minimum through to some with command time on big buses. There were also a bunch of Aer Arran, Cityjet, FR and corporate jet. Again some of them had command and/or instructor time and many thousands of hours. Others were just in the door at those outfits and wanted to get out.
Whilst many looking in from the outside would think that everyone at AL is off a cadet scheme this is not the case. Over the years there have been lots of direct entrys that have a varied background from thousands of hours on light singles, military through to TP and other jet operators. Logic would dictate that there would be a mix of people hired purely from the simple standpoint that we only have 1 A320 sim and the training department wouldn't be able to cope with running full conversion courses, ZFTT, base training etc. It is already stretched with pre command courses and A330 conversions nevermind the usual ongoing training. Bet hey what would I know I am only applying logic. And unfortunately if your lucky to get in then logic has no bearing on how anything in Aer Lingus works:) |
I think a lot of people thought they had it in the bag with getting an interview with BA Cityflyer with the level of experience they had (myself included).
The problem is we don't know what they after after and unless we apply we will never know whether we are a suitable applicant or not. The one saving grace with this application form it's not too long winded and asking for sole searching questions unlike the other stupid application forms one has to complete in order to get a PFO! |
I like the way they state that if they receive huge quantities of applications they will take into account their stated 'desirable competencies', and then give you nowhere on the form a chance to say whether you possess said competencies. Irish logic?
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It says they will take into account "Desirable criteria" which is A320 rated or multi crew experience. Not key competencies.
Please note that if the volume of candidates meeting all essential criteria is high, Aer Lingus will then take desirable criteria into account |
Aer lingus form
On the application form for Aer Lingus, in the flying hours section there is a column F/E time can anyone tell me what this is cheers
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That would be Flight Engineer(panel bashers, sideways flyers or Systems Pilots) time for those of you old enough to remember B727/747 L1011s and Dc-10s and 8s and a few military things. I expect they dusted off an old application form for the "hours" part. Good luck to all who apply. It is still a nice place to work mainly due to those you will be sitting beside for those long work days!
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The one and only Ray O'Shea and you're feckin better looking brother, owe the young Irish Wannabee pilots the truth as to how the system worked way back when you were handed your careers on a silver platter! The system could be well verified by the infamous Barney Croghan or Donal Foley, and the one and only true 'Neanderthal' Joe Cull if they could give a flying FK. Moriarity and his bum buddy Paddy Morrisey would love to enter into this conversation, as they have ALOT to add ( ESP since Paddy's son was passed over at ALT and subsequently had to join FR to 'get in'....But Morrisey never did have the balls and always played second fiddle to Terry Mc Neil ( a true gentleman may I add)
I would however like to now take this opportunity to mention the true gentlemen behind the scenes, like Sean McGirl, and the wee fella with the glasses'. Now is your time to speak up and tell the world how things really worked in the back rooms at the ALT hiring Dept.( or any other dept. come to mention it) You're all mostly retired now, so what do you have to lose in telling the truth.....most of you were f'd over anyways for most of your careers and thank God most of you got your own back by joining PARC c/o Tim Shattock ( as long as you could put up with his EGO to make back the few bob ALT made on tour backs....While you put up with the ****e you did not deserve. getting late, rant over for now......feels good getting it of the chest though.....more to come......the truth always rises to the surface!!! Isn 't that right R.O.........Sweet Dreams |
Has everyone who has applied received an aknowldegment that theyve received our CVs?
To whom it may concern, Thank you for applying for a position within Aer Lingus. Should your application meet our required criteria we will be in contact. Best Regards, Recruitment Aer Lingus |
It must be John Barleycorn and I expect I'll be banned for that.
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I just heard that EI have started the interview process...is this true? and if so can anyone give a run down of the format or the questions asked this time around?
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jammers Join Date: Feb 2000 Posts: 64 The one and only Ray O'Shea and you're feckin better looking brother, owe the young Irish Wannabee pilots the truth as to how the system worked way back when you were handed your careers on a silver platter! The system could be well verified by the infamous Barney Croghan or Donal Foley, and the one and only true 'Neanderthal' Joe Cull if they could give a flying FK. Moriarity and his bum buddy Paddy Morrisey would love to enter into this conversation, as they have ALOT to add ( ESP since Paddy's son was passed over at ALT and subsequently had to join FR to 'get in'....But Morrisey never did have the balls and always played second fiddle to Terry Mc Neil ( a true gentleman may I add) I would however like to now take this opportunity to mention the true gentlemen behind the scenes, like Sean McGirl, and the wee fella with the glasses'. Now is your time to speak up and tell the world how things really worked in the back rooms at the ALT hiring Dept.( or any other dept. come to mention it) You're all mostly retired now, so what do you have to lose in telling the truth.....most of you were f'd over anyways for most of your careers and thank God most of you got your own back by joining PARC c/o Tim Shattock ( as long as you could put up with his EGO to make back the few bob ALT made on tour backs....While you put up with the ****e you did not deserve. getting late, rant over for now......feels good getting it of the chest though.....more to come......the truth always rises to the surface!!! Isn 't that right R.O.........Sweet Dreams |
Retiring at 50 c/o C.M.........Grapes, oh yes....and plenty of them here in Tuscany....Contemplating how good life has been at ALT....
Again I will take my time to tell all of you contemplating the move here to EIRE.....Do your Due Diligence......The skippers here are all very young and must now all work to 65 given the new rules........If this is where you want to be then certainly come home, but it will be an all together different world ( airline) then the one I was hired into and the one I was describing in my previous post.....Bearcat obviously did not make the cut way back when but good luck to him now. B400 me arse |
Any indication of terms and conditions?
Or the breakdown of a320 rated/cadets/guys non 320 jet time?! |
Anyone know a workaround for the PDF thats on the site and can't type into it? Is there a way to make it accessible to type my form in and email - probably looks more professional.
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That's exactly what I did. I used NitroPDF to edit the file and then sent it on its way, but I'm sure there are more applications out there. It's a bit tricky to fumble around with but it works and looks neat.
Cheers, drfaust |
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I also edited the Application and Sent as PDF, however had this: Please resubmit your application for First Officer as the format it was sent in is not readable. It mad me Laugh as what Airline HR Department can't read or receive PDF files?? I resubmitted as PDF, lets see what happens? :ugh: |
I'd imagine that they'll start contacting applicants soon enough as they'll want to have the new intake trained up and out on the lines by the end of March.
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I have had some problem with the .pdf file. I can't write down on it, so I sent all the 8 pages via standard mail.
I don't have heard anything from them since now. Have you received something? NC :zzz: |
Application
I did it the old fashioned way (ish) by printing it out, filling it in with my neatest handwriting and scanning it back in as a PDF file. I sent it by email and within an hour I had received an email confirming reciept of my application.
Londoncalling2009.... i would either re-submit or give them a call or email asking them to confirm reciept. Would do no harm i reckon. Burger81 |
fo pay scale for dublin
anyone know what the pay is for a dublin based first officer?
not the uk terms but the irish contract terms? Also how long to command |
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