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Gulfstreamaviator 2nd Jul 2010 06:20

Hope it is not RAK Airways
 
They have a spare aircraft, but no experience.

glf

Creoleflyer 2nd Jul 2010 11:38

Air Seychelles have the experience and the plane, and yes, have employed some british too. and yes... less chances of going bust. Wouldn't be nice to get another European company to do it and then later on (god forbid) go bust and have to find another company to do it... what do you think?

cldrvr 2nd Jul 2010 14:50

The contract was put out to tender and the lowest bidder won (helped of course by the demise in the Pound)

The MoD cannot specify in the tender contract to employ UK residents as it would preclude tender offers from domiciles where UK residents would not have the right to work. The tender process has been out for a while so why would the MoD extend the deadline to accomodate one tenderer? That would show bias in the tender process. The deadline was clearly spelled out and if the guys from Globespan could not meet the deadline that would have been their problem and not the MoD's. Now if the MoD would have given preferential treatment to a UK based operator, consulted BALPA, or not awarded it to the most cost efficient option there would have been more uproar. So now a few pilots are upset that the contract went offshore, I am pretty sure that that is of no concern to the MoD and the service personnel now enjoying a scheduled service again.

Dreamshiner 2nd Jul 2010 17:51


The contract was put out to tender and the lowest bidder won (helped of course by the demise in the Pound)

The MoD cannot specify in the tender contract to employ UK residents as it would preclude tender offers from domiciles where UK residents would not have the right to work. The tender process has been out for a while so why would the MoD extend the deadline to accomodate one tenderer? That would show bias in the tender process. The deadline was clearly spelled out and if the guys from Globespan could not meet the deadline that would have been their problem and not the MoD's. Now if the MoD would have given preferential treatment to a UK based operator, consulted BALPA, or not awarded it to the most cost efficient option there would have been more uproar. So now a few pilots are upset that the contract went offshore, I am pretty sure that that is of no concern to the MoD and the service personnel now enjoying a scheduled service again.
And that in one paragraph highlights what is wrong with our country. Nobody else plays by the rules however we stringently adhere to them.

If to keep the PC brigade happy you have to omit a line from the tender process then fair enough. However if you can imply something during the sit down talks (off the record) then that is something else completely.

stansdead 3rd Jul 2010 13:25

Titan Airways
 
I heard that the UK registered and operated airline, Titan Airways had won the contract between UK/Ascension/Falklands with their B763.

Mikehotel152 3rd Jul 2010 14:01

Is that Titan 763 used for anything else?

sam dilly 6th Jul 2010 08:38

Well if it isnt, then TITAN make a damn good job of hiding it, because you hardly ever see it parked outside the Hanger at Stansted.
It flys plenty.

747-crew 7th Jul 2010 15:06

I heard rumours that air atlanta icelandic got the contract again with their 747-300

ndorka 10th Sep 2010 15:38

Titan has got the contract. I know as I work for them. Everyone is actually not happy to go to Ascensions or Falklands.
Is it really that good over there??

DjerbaDevil 10th Sep 2010 16:58

With their one and only B763, G-POWD that they are operating for Easyjet, presumeably.

luvly jubbly 11th Sep 2010 13:12

ndorka.... No. But the Cabin Crew love it:}

DC-10-COL 11th Sep 2010 19:27

I flew back to the UK on one of the first Air Seychelles flights - with the same Globespan Stewardesses that were on the Globespan 767 on the way down! Bring on the Airtankers!:hmm:

411A 11th Sep 2010 23:25

Hmmm, is not the RAF capable of keeping their nine L1011 types in...reasonable service?
And, if not, WHY not?

If our small adhoc charter airline can keep our one lone L1011-500 fully serviceable for the last 200+ revenue hours, why the hell cannot the RAF actually...do the same?

Answers on a postcard will....do.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Chief Brody 12th Sep 2010 08:19

No answer re the RAF Tristar

Just one quick question .....

Are you ever not on this site ???

I mean your post was at 00.25 GMT thats late afternoon in Arizona - dont you have a bbq to go to or blow the froth off a couple with some mates?

Oh sorry I forgot, a bbq would involve you having pals which as most of us know on this site with you attitude and chip on your shoulder thats highly unlikely. :E

ta ta for now ol' bean

Oceanic815 12th Sep 2010 08:43

411A
Whilst I cannot defend the Tristar serviceability record, they were taken off the Falkland schedule to provide a much needed airbridge to a hot sandy place!

EGT Redline 12th Sep 2010 09:06


Hmmm, is not the RAF capable of keeping their nine L1011 types in...reasonable service?
And, if not, WHY not?

If our small adhoc charter airline can keep our one lone L1011-500 fully serviceable for the last 200+ revenue hours, why the hell cannot the RAF actually...do the same?
The biggest problem they face is a severe lack of spares. The parts are out there but the MoD just won't pay the going rate for them. At the end of the day you get what you pay for as more often than not, a lot of components received were fail on fit.

Out of curiosity 411A, what kind of hours and cycles has that machine you're operating accumulated? Is your maintenance done in house and do you utilise a flying spanner on flights?

Brain Potter 12th Sep 2010 10:58

The SA run can be performed by a standard airliner. The RAF TriStars were re-deployed many years ago to be used on tasks that require military equipment and crews. Much of their current serviceabilty and airworthiness issues are related to equipment that is outside of 411A's experience.

411A 13th Sep 2010 03:13


...what kind of hours and cycles has that machine you're operating accumulated?
65,000 hours and 17,500 cycles.


...Is your maintenance done in house and do you utilise a flying spanner on flights?
In house, except for heavy checks, and yes, flying spanners, always.
So far, 100% dispatch reliability...it can be done, all it takes is folks who know how.;)

I mean your post was at 00.25 GMT thats late afternoon in Arizona - dont you have a bbq to go to or blow the froth off a couple with some mates?
Late afternoon?
Gosh, we start much earlier than that, here.:p

Trayliner 26th Oct 2010 16:43

Titan Airways
 
Just to let all concerned now, Titan Airways has the Airbridge contract. I know because I work for them and have just got back from a 16 day trip to BZZ, ASN and MPN. A very interesting trip, but completely unacceptable accomodation, no locks on the door in MPN. You are more secure in a tent!

Creoleflyer 18th Jan 2011 11:40

Any idea what's happening after March '11 then? Who's taking over the contract?


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