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bleeds off 8th Oct 2009 16:35

hey my friend emirmorrocan
 
Still sh!tty down there huh :ouch:
Looks like it's getting worse than the Regional Airlines time...

I'm sure u're doing your best to cope with it, but this marocanization of all the RAM subsidiaries do not look good for u guys... maybe it's an opportunity to look for greener pastures...

It's well known that Morrocan Pilots are the best in the world and u expats have only the right to shut up . Stop serving them. Leave them in their sh.t

Missing the good times when I was your FO though:ok:

Take it easy

emirmorocan 8th Oct 2009 18:09

Hey Bleeds!!! Long time man!!
Yeahh the things are getting worst.Sign of times.
Nice to hear from you again.

kreten 8th Oct 2009 18:09

Word of advice
 
Advice to anyone who thinks to join.
If you are desperate for money come and "enjoy", money is good, people OK (apart of RAME).
If you are not desperate DO NOT come. It will be very hard as it is already for all of working here.
So conclusion if you need money join us but consider to stay as short as possible and go somewhere else, at least I will hopefully soon, very very soon.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU.

kreten 12th Oct 2009 19:46

Captain for 10/2 6470 euro plus 882 euro for appatement

KMACYOYO 19th Oct 2009 19:13

RAME! NO PLEASE....I prefer to survive!
 
:cool:1. NO roster, 15 days only changed every day:\
2. roster 7- 1 - 7 up to the limit of regulations and more:}
3. NO tickets - Bull**** tickets for ground staff :ugh:
4. NO uniforms - they don't have the minimum respect for employee:D
5. Lack of documentation - technical and flight :8
6. Flight and OPS procedures like in a Flight school :ok:
7. Chief pilot have Double Face - Shoort memory - NO attitude - unuseful
8. Lack of management - Mr S is a esperienced liar :E
9. Lack of organization - managed by unesperienced person :yuk:
10. Lack of Broker's support (Rishworth....too slow... ETOPS???? Bigarre THE SHARK!) :eek:
11. Contract NOT respected! :mad:
12. Pay attention...DO NOT ANTICIPATE MONEY FOR THE COMPANY....:cool:
13. Cabin attendent have NOT been payed :ouch:
14. NO respect for your days OFF and period OFF not respected :uhoh:
15. Tickets for medical and simulators for licence renewal NOT payed :D
16. money OK but you will be the slave of moroccans liars
17. .....coming soon

Gooooooooooooooooooood Luck!

irritablepilot 19th Oct 2009 19:40

news from Morocco?
 
Cabin Attendents have been noticed by Mrs Alchool that one Bombardier is coming to the company.... probably leased with crew.....
There is really someone interested in these marvelous job conditions?

KMACYOYO 26th Oct 2009 23:47

Still searching for scrificial victims?
 
Morocco
Urgent need for: - Captains - F/Os - 500 hrs minimum on ATR72 current on ATR72, with JAA licence, based Morocco. Interesting net of tax salary and additional advantages...:E. If you are available for immediate start with us, please send your detailed resumé mentioning flight hours and license validities. We won't miss getting back to you soon!
Requirements: extreme flexibility
Contract: not respected at all


Mr Big Liar

emirmorocan 27th Oct 2009 00:07

RAME - nothing is changing....old promisses but .....good luck for the new guys.
2010 is coming....new jobs everywhere and Mr S will be in trouble.

menikos 27th Oct 2009 17:27

Who is Mr S ? is it also Mr Alcohol, please let us know

KMACYOYO 28th Oct 2009 18:23

Who is Mr S.......
 
I know why you're here, Pilot. I know what you've been doing... why you hardly Work, why you live alone, and why night after night, you sit by your ATR. You're looking for him. I know because I was once looking for the same thing. And when he found me, he told me I wasn't really looking for him. I was looking for an answer. It's the question that drives us, my friend. It's the question that brought you here. You know the question, just as I did.

KMACYOYO 28th Oct 2009 18:32

what is The RAM Extreme.......
 
The RAME is a system, Pilot. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Captains, First officers, liars, children. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.

irritablepilot 28th Oct 2009 18:50

I know *exactly* what you mean
 
Let me tell you why you're here.
You're here because you know something.
What you know you can't explain, but you feel it.
You've felt it your entire life here, that there's something wrong with the company.
You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad.
It is this feeling that has brought you to me. :ugh:

irritablepilot 28th Oct 2009 18:53

Do you know what I'm talking about?
 
Mr S....K the famous liar.
Mrs Alchool, is madame B...a

:cool:

irritablepilot 28th Oct 2009 19:02

Welcome to the real world
 
There you are a slave, Pilot. Like everyone else you were born into bondage. Into a prison that you cannot taste or see or touch. A prison for your mind. :oh:

I see it in your eyes. You have the look of a firts officer who accepts what because he is expecting to be Captain.
Ironically, that's not far from the truth. Do you believe in fate, Pilot?:E

Have you ever had a dream, Pilot, that you were so sure was real? What if you were unable to wake from that dream? How would you know the difference between the dream world and the real world?

Welcome to the real world.

KMACYOYO 29th Oct 2009 19:28

The Matrix !
 
Follow the white rabbit......

captplaystation 30th Oct 2009 00:16

Reading the last 6 posts I truly wonder what you guys are smoking/sniffing/drinking :rolleyes: but I could use some :hmm:
Do you ship ? I am not SO far away :ok:

emirmorocan 30th Oct 2009 12:03

hahaha It is true, the last six posts...the poor guys are losing theirs minds..
Please! There is life beyond RAME!!
But anyway, good was the time when we were working for an organized and honest company even with lower salary.

concordino 30th Oct 2009 15:49

Can Anyone from the Regional Air Lines operation shed some light on what happened to the 4 ATR's operated by RAL.

I understand 2 of them were actually RAM planes (CDU/CDV). Are they being integrated into RAM Express along with the 4 ATR 72s ?

How about (RLF/RLG) :)

Cheers

KMACYOYO 30th Oct 2009 20:34

Certainly Captain you are always right !

we have to share our pusher, dark skin....big sunglasses....always smailing....:E

YouTube - Drug effect on people while driveing a car funny xD

he is accustomed to the n° 2

irritablepilot 31st Oct 2009 20:28

May Day... May Day... May Day
 
Nothing can replace your freedom..... RAME is NOT a normal company is a disaster! You are considered a slave. Absolutely NO chances to remain in Morocco. Divert to other places ASAP!!!! If you plan to join....PULL UP....and GO AROUND!

irritablepilot 1st Nov 2009 12:51

It's a shame! you can be proud of yourselves!
 
Nomore days for your medical....
You have to pay ticket by yourselves....
Days ON SIM are considered OFF....

NO NEWS !!!

:E

KMACYOYO 2nd Nov 2009 07:54

The disaster is going worst!
 
Several Cabin and Flight crews are been threatened of retaliations if they refuse to fly over the limits imposed by regulations.

Chief Pilot UNAVAILABLE ...... as usual.....

Everything in the hands of a child and a Smiling Liar.....

KMACYOYO 2nd Nov 2009 08:08

Pan....pan....pan
 
RAME is starting to jeopardise flight crews.

Threat phone calls to the personnel that refuses to overcome DCA & company rules and refuses to fly sick.

What will be the next step? :E

kreten 4th Nov 2009 10:37

STOP
 
Stop crying and do something........ if you can
My advice to all F\O is to stop talking and try to go somewhere else.
Very soon will be something.
Former regional guys will stay whatever it takes because they do not have GUTS to do something except to stay.:{:{:{:{:{:=:=:=:=:=

kreten 14th Nov 2009 11:11

News
 
Somebody resigned ?

kreten 14th Nov 2009 11:14

Sick
 
Let`s report sick, maybe something can happened
What you think ?
:ugh::D:ok:

kreten 22nd Nov 2009 22:29

Resignation
 
Two F/O resigned.
:D:D:D

atrrightseater 29th Nov 2009 15:03

Get It Straight
 
Hey Emir, you gotta get things straight man. First of all you seem to be a well educated person, but with no principles ( just by reading your posts I can say that). How can you say that ex-regional pilots didnīt start the RAME operation. Since 2004 when Regional started the ATR operation for RAM everything was upslope for the comencement of RAME. Also ex regional pilots were the first ones to be approached by RAM administration to be part of the operation and were guaranteed a spot in the new airline. Even with ETOPS in the picture and the chief pilot belonging to this broker does nor mean that they are the strong man in there, understand that Rishworth could not have been able to supply all of the crews for that buisness. And after all, it all comes down to money, if ETOPS supply less expensive pilots, so be it.
Now, regarding to the chief pilot and him being part of ETOPS, that was the only good call this administration had, since no one from Regional was capable of doing it, and I am not concentrating in skills, just in french speaking person.
Massalama mon ami

atrrightseater 29th Nov 2009 15:41

Shame on you
 
Hey Emir, shame on you man. You are talking sh** of your previous coleagues. So you think you are the big shot huh!!! Get real man. you are as guilty as anyone else. For someone to be appreciated as a "Good" pilot that person has to be skillfull and a good person, and believe me, you might be skillfull, but as a person I can now tell you are worth nothing. So your flying is flawless, never had an incident, you are an angel man.

I cannot believe you write with such hatred against your previous mates after you have called them to show your respect and desire to join RAME. Such a hipocrite, why would you wanna join a shi***y airline after what you have written in here. You are outta your mind, or you might just be simply stupid.

At RAME they also have computers and internet you ignorant jerk, how do you think they found out all about you and your smart posts at the same time you were begging for a job there. Player, you dindnīt played it safe, thatīs why you are OUT!!!!!!!!

I am sure that you are simply dissapointed with the decision you took of staying with Regional and not joinning RAME at the precise moment, because believe me, at RAME there is no place for you man, there might be opennings, but none for you you piece of worthless scum. Am I being aggressive here or what??? Sorry man, but the truth is a b*tch.

How can you talk about the chief pilot, about the operation, the administration, etc..... if what you know is sh*t. Do you know the chief pilot??? I know you have only talked to him over the phone, but have you met him?? Have you flown the RAME 72īs, I think not and will never happen, so how can you say such stuff. Please leave this issues to people who are really inside the operation and you can concentrate to your Regional stuff. If what you are posting is not true, just shut the fu*k up

Well, happy flying, enjoy your life and PLEASE be more loyal to your actions.

NOTE: For the rest of the bloggers reading this thread, I am not justifying RAMEīs actions, there are a lot of problems, but as long as the money keeps coming I simply give a sh*t about stupid issues like uniforms. Just stick to your MANEX and thats it, so far it has worked for me.

emirmorocan 29th Nov 2009 19:52

atrrightseater,

as a probationary ppruner you are showing......
Maybe you are the chief pilot...anyway...I will not consider your offenses, maybe It is a case of misunderstanding because I am in and very close to you.
Take it easy man, I know the roster is tough but you dont need take it personally.
I dont have nothing personally against the you(Chief Pilot?) and neither against those who I mentioned,It was only their mistakes.
In that moment of my post was an injustice not approve some guys from RGL,specially those who deserved. They were highly skilled pilots to have theirs ass kicked out in the screening.
Try to get more informations about what you wrote.
And please! Dont think you gonna retire here in Morocco, your position wont last forever.

See you around.:cool:
Cheers

atrrightseater 29th Nov 2009 21:13

Scared
 
So now you are scared huh................you dumb fu*k. This means you are still interested in joinning this shi**y company. Do not judge people until you know them. there is no misunderstanding, Captain S. had a very good impression of you from the first time and Mr. Chief Pilot treated you very good on the phone to welcome you to the company.Try to be a little bit more intelligent next time on what you post.Relax Max

captplaystation 29th Nov 2009 22:05

Do you guys understand what I mean by "keeping your head below the parapet" ? I recommend you try it, much easier in the long term. :ok:
This way you get to keep your job and you use your energy for something more pleasurable . . . . Manex ? pourquoi pas ? ;)

atrrightseater 30th Nov 2009 00:51

Captplaystation
 
Wise words mr. captplaystation

emirmorocan 30th Nov 2009 09:46

atrrightseater,

maybe you did not catch the meaning of my posts or maybe I have expressed myself in the wrong way.
I was trying to help you, but....
I know you are very far from your house and the current T&C are not the same as before.
The big majority are not satisfied with the contract.
I dont want to discuss people, but ideas and facts.
Let`s forget the whole thing,if I have reached you somehow in the negative way, I apologize, it was not my intentions.

Cheers
EM

desk_bound 3rd Dec 2009 14:04

RAME, What is happening?
 
Could some one please be objective and sensable and tell me what is going on at RAME

I have just got another e mail from ETOPS asking for my details again.
  • Are there jobs to be filled?
  • What are working T & C's like
  • Do they have a commuting contract
  • And do you get ID travel?
Thanks

FLEXPWR 8th Dec 2009 13:33

Hi Deskbound,

If you had contact with Etops, they should be able to tell you what conditions to expect. If not, surely you'll get a contact name/number to the person in charge of these details.

My guess is that it should be more accurate than hearsay.

The job seems hard but you get your hours and move on, take what you can while you can, accept some of the hardships and move faster to better climes.

Cheers,

Flex

kreten 18th Dec 2009 15:17

Emir
 
Emir where are you. No comments from you. I miss you, specially you did not join us yet. Did you stop because you are joining us or nothing new to comment.:ugh:

kreten 18th Dec 2009 15:20

Where is EMIR
 
Emir where are you. No comments from you. I miss you, specially you did not join us yet. Did you stop because you are joining us or nothing new to comment.:ugh:
In case you don`t know everything is the same, but for you there is new job Jet Airways India. I don`t think CP will be happy to see you here.:=

emirmorocan 18th Dec 2009 21:41

Dear Kreten,

thank you for your update.
In reality I am commited here and I would not leave only for this reason.
About all events, I can say to you that it is very sad to see some coleagues being treated with a minimum respect in the screening,enroute..etc specially in the very beginning of Rame.
Day by day our class has been treated with less respect,sometimes by the employers,sometimes even by ourselves.
Elapsed 4 years here,somehow I know how the things works and how some coleagues behave in the job, like everywhere, some of them above the average,anothers below.
Unfortunatelly for most of them there are not another options of job in the moment and they have to stay and pass through the inconvenients.
I dont intend to go to India, I dont need it in reality.Over these 4 years here some possibilities arose for me around the world and I refused all of them.
For many years I have seen the same story,some guys that are in key positions today are replaced tomorrow without ceremony and maybe knock in your door asking for a help.
So, I wish you all the best and Merry Christmas.

kreten 20th Dec 2009 16:37

NICE
 
So you are saying that you are not coming. OK. Good for you. You will be around but please in future do not comment RAME considering you are not part of company.
But you are free to comment your present company at all time.
Happy New Year to you and your family.
By the way I hope I will not be around soon.


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