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overstress 10th May 2009 13:05

BA pilot voluntary redundancy
 
The Mail online has the story. The top 500 have been offered a package to go, we are all now waiting to see how many take it up.

Mail link here

TopBunk 10th May 2009 14:54

Overstress

Not strictly true. The company will be/are contacting the top 500 initially with an illustration of the offer and inviting applications. At the same time anyone else is welcome to apply.:ok:

Aussie 10th May 2009 14:56

So the 100 pilots are being offered a years salary, correct?

L337 10th May 2009 14:59

No. What Top Bunk said.

overstress 10th May 2009 15:20

TopBunk: yes your details are right, thanks for that.

Mmmayday38 11th May 2009 09:06

Top 500 ( or any pilot in BA who requested a 'severance' quote by 5th May) should receive their letter between 15th and 20th May, and anyone wanting to accept the offer, has until May 31st to accept. I'm waiting for mine with interest. It is then up to BA how many of those are given it!

Don't believe everything that's written in the Media; but this doesn't seem too far off the truth, I hope !

dartagnan 11th May 2009 09:21

can I apply to resign, even if I am not working for BA?

CSman 11th May 2009 09:23

MMMaday38
 
You actually want to leave the best airline in the world at age 44 unbelieveable. This old timer would return now if it were possible

Hotel Mode 11th May 2009 09:31


You actually want to leave the best airline in the world at age 44 unbelieveable.
I think if you decode his screename you might understand why...

wobble2plank 11th May 2009 09:49

Mmmayday38,

Well, we will still be sorry to see you go. :sad:

Travesty!

W2P

CSman 11th May 2009 10:46

MMMday38
 
Now realise who you are, don't let the B******Ds drive you out,spent most of my flying life as a CLING ON [ex Cambrian] and later as one of the FEW[Flat Earth W:mad:] the title given to the first of us who crossed over from shorthaul to long haul, for all the crap loved every minute in BA

Love_joy 15th May 2009 09:54

Is this a touch narrow sighted?

A saving of £20M/yr has been quoted here, but we are sitting at the start of the recovery of this current economic recession - if BA were to dump these pilots, at a significant cost in the short term, to attempt a saving in the long term - would they not need to recruit again, at cost, when the good times come back?

A lot of if's and but's here... discuss.

clanger32 15th May 2009 10:45

assuming -and this is a massive assumption- we are at the start of a recovery, then even if we ignore that it's likely to be a long and protracted recovery, 100 senior pilots gone - on [say] an average of £100k p.a. = £10m p.a. saved.

If you replace 1 for 1, given everyone starts at the bottom, on £48k (assuming no SSP cadet entries, who you can pay even less to...) =£5m.

QED cost reduction of AT LEAST £5m a year. Alright, hardly a make or break amount for an airline such as BA, but still a decent sum....

Rainboe 15th May 2009 17:52

The only 'but' is that an organisation like BA can get the best financial minds in the country to work out whether it is worth it! It's up to them, isn't it? If they say it's worth it, who's to argue?

757_Driver 15th May 2009 18:53

we may be at the start of a recovery in the wider economy - however that doesn't mean that we are going to return to the bloated, out of control orgy of the last 3 or 4 years. BA, like everyone else, has over-expanded for a 'normal' market. Even if long term, sustainable growth occurs, its starting from a much smaller market than at the height of the bubble, and remember that a significant proportion of BA's bottom line came from transatlantic premium pax - and who did they work for?

The Real Slim Shady 15th May 2009 19:43

Don't wish to p1ss on anyone's parade, but surely BA could make more cost savings than £20M by involving the employees?

hunterboy 15th May 2009 21:24

Ah, but that's not The BA Way.....

Aerospace101 16th May 2009 17:08


has over-expanded for a 'normal' market
Do explain....

A and C 16th May 2009 17:53

Ahh........... welcome to a world that lets you disconect the autothrottle.

757_Driver 16th May 2009 21:52


Quote:
has over-expanded for a 'normal' market
Do explain.... Yesterday 22:24
What I mean is that BA and every other company on the planet has recruited, expanded and written their business models to compete in a market that was a bubble, and as such was entirely false. All the economy is doing now, after the initial shock is merely correcting back to a path of sustainable growth, and that correction has meant that many companies in many industries find themselves horribly over capacitized.
The economy probably will recover(not definately as the question of the 80% of GDP national debt still remains unanswered), and probably will grow again leading us back to reasonably good times, but it will take a few years, maybe more than few, before the market even gets back to where it was at the end of 2007.
Thats what I mean by BA having over-expanded - they merely expanded to match the bubble then found themselves standing on air when the bubble burst.


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