Hi Koncrete,

Times are tough at xl, as eveywhere else!! Been here many years myself, so I have seen u come and go Koncrete! Life is tough where ever u are. Lets just hope everything works out for all of us!!

The biggest problem that XL have is the fact that re-financing is out in the public domain in the 1st place. Bookings for 2009 might be up now, but the travelling public are a fickle lot.
Those in the industry had known for a while that Zoom were in trouble, and i even told some friends of my parents to cancel their booking with them 4 weeks ago, and re-book with another carrier which they did. Mr and Mrs Joe public will be sitting indoors staring at the rain right now, planning next years family holiday, and thinking to themselves "Don't book XL cos they might not be here" Their hard earned and saved up holiday pennies will be spent on a tour company/airline that they percieve will be around next year to deliver, and quite frankly, who could blame them.
The sooner that XL get themselves out of this hole, and publish some good news in the media the better it will be for all concerned.

My point exactly !

I hope it doesn't happen but if it does, it does! but for now lets just stop the scare mongering and watch this space.

Here's hoping

HFS :)

"F-ck Me!", as Gordon might say, I actually find myself agreeing with HFS! Whatever next :) .

KT

Kt

:)

Hfs

In terms of my original question....fair to say recruitment is not going to be on the agenda for a while.I hope things work out for you guys.

RMC

On the contrary, even though re-financing is taking place we are still recruiting, as far as I was aware we are short of experienced crew on the 73.

HFS:)

A week is a long time in Politics ( and indeed aviation )
If it all goes (as seems likely at time of writing) tits-up, I wish all my former colleagues that I spent a very happy summer season with the very best of luck.
Been there done that, but there is always a silver lining hidden there even if it won't seem very evident today.

Thousands may be stranded as XL Leisure prepares to declare bankruptcy - Times Online

Not sure if those reading this thread have seen the article or not. It certainly isn't something that helps with bookings if the journalist has got the facts or timings wrong.

Journalistic scaremongering
 

Well, I would be shocked and greatly saddened if these stories about XL are true. Needless to say I sincerely hope it's all a load of sensationalist press nonsence. From what I gather XL always seemed one of the better companies in the industry to work for and fly with so I can only wish them and their staff well - and I work for Flybe!

Wishing clear skies to all my fellow aviators.

Desk-pilot

XL, who?:{. Another sad loss.

I hate to be the barer of bad news, but seems that XL have become another casualty of the record fuel prices....
best wishes to all those who were at XL and hope you find employment in such a tough climate

Smiler

And best wishes and thoughts with those that have lost hard-earned holidays.

Poor passengers, don't make me sick
 

Ham Phisted :mad::mad:- sorry but they're going to get their money back. Ok maybe they don't get their hols (and the majority will anyway), but that's a far cry from suddenly being dropped in the pooh from a great height and being told you no longer have an income:{. The only people we should be ultimately concerned with are those formerly employed by XL, the holiday-makers have ABTA and ATOL protection.

All these bleating pax at the airport that are shown on the news really annoy me:oh:, they harp on that there's nobody there to help them. Well why would there be, these people have been suddenly made redundant, why on earth would they show up at the airport when they don't have an employer, they sure as hell aren't going to get paid for it, indeed they won't get paid for what they've done this month so far. These people need to get a grip, go home and phone the helplines that have been set up for them..... where's the helpline for the employees, oh there aren't any!!!!

Rant over.

HFS, any comment?

My best wishes go to all affected,

KT :(

Yes HFS, care to make a comment and have a go at other PPRuNers now? No smoke without fire.

JFP – I guess your now ex-XL. Nobody likes losing their job and my sympathy to all those affected. However, HP has a valid point regarding the pax. The very people who after all have presumably being paying your wages and are now stranded wherever, maybe wil small kids wondering how they are going to get home. And for the record, maybe not all will get their money back !!

“People who have booked holidays with XL for future dates should also be able to reclaim their money. However, passengers who booked flights and hotels direct with XL but not as part of a package will lose theirs. “


Thousands may be stranded as XL Leisure prepares to declare bankruptcy - Times Online

Sad for everyone, particularly employees, but yes ,pax too.
As usual the only one who comes out unscathed are the bankers ( rymes with . . .kers)
who are riding off into the sunset having made a pre-emptive strike (no doubt after having a good old recce during the "re-financing" meetings. . . ha ha)
Same sort of deal happened to me in a previous UK company, when the bank waited for the August income to hit the account and then promptly pulled the plug with money in the bank. 20th Sep 2001 was probably a slightly worse time to have to find a job than now, but that is not much compensation I know for those of you dumped on today by the financial "wizards" that closed down a company with very healthy forward bookings.

HFS,

Your arrogance was blinded by your head being firmly wedged up your ar$e.

I am very sorry to hear about the loss of XL though. Had a couple mates there, and wish all you guys the best in finding another job as soon as poss'.

MG.

No I'm not en ex XL employee:=, it just get's up my nose that nobody in the media focusses anything on those most severely affected and are desperately trawling round for passenger sob stories:yuk:. I have been through the demise of an airline, British World RIP 14/12/01, so I know what it's like. The employees are in my thought's, the passengers most certainly aren't, they've got cover through ABTA, ATOL or their Credit Card company, the guy's and girl's who's livelihood have nobody but themselves to turn to.