The situation with CityFlyer is interesting. They want to expand but they can't get the aircraft. RJ100s are like hens teeth and RJ85s are rare nowadays as well after CityJet have snapped up many that were surplus.

If BA can wet lease in 146s or RJs at competitive prices then I suspect they will lease in any extra capacity to cater for expansion until the RJ goes and then CityFlyer can cut their ties with any wet lease operators and concentrate on the new type, what ever it maybe. May sound a bit far fetched but believe you and me - the more you think about it then the more credible it sounds!

Actually RJ100's are not like hens teeth and are available. RJ85's however are much harder to come by but I am told that 2 more 85's have been aquired from somewhere and will arrive in time for the winter program.

They couldn't wait to get rid of the six best RJ100's to Swis a couple of years ago. They also rid themselves of the 146's when they did the Flybe deal.
Clouds and kooko land spring to mind!

BA CityFlyer may yet become BE CityFlyer and therefore get Gash 8's

They are getting Dash 8's anyway - whatever happens -.
The Dashes will do the domestics routes and AMS, with the RJs carrying on doing the "long haul" stuff - ie Mad.

Well that is now down to 5 good RJ100s since the aircraft that was involved in the famous LCY landing and subsequent rebuild on the north bank of the docks was in fact an ex BACon machine!

Can anyone tell us what payload on average you will be able to lift out of London City on the Dash on a LCY - EDI sector? Will a full pax load be possible?

Lord Flash heart.

That's a terrific question.

So come on you -8 folks. Have a wee peep in your jepps , for Lucy

And your Part 4 for the perf outa there.

I've heard elsewhere that it's rubbish on the Q outa London City but it don't stop Luxair.

Would be great to hear some really informed comment tho.

OK Flybe FO's.......I mean you!

From hear-say;

LCY-EDI, standard day, max pax possible is 60.
Don't even start with FRA's or further. :eek: (30 on the MAD/WAW's? :ouch: )

That's all I've heard folks...

Greetz, an RJ Pilot

Yes but with a typical burn of 800; Thats near on a third of the burn of the RJ, and when have you carried more than 60 on the low peak departures ?

With fuel at 50p a litre and rising, a saving of £800 per sector looks pretty good to me.

But then I know nothing.

Hubble,

The deal with BA and cityflyer is.. There is none!! Seperate seniority lists terms and conditions etc. Only thing in common is staff travel. Though we get a watered down version. Basically we are the original Open Skies... though without the support of our mainline collegues :eek:...... BA pilot for a BA plane.... Doh too late!!

If you want ot go over to Mainline. You have to apply as an external candidate and go through the entire interview/selection process.

RJ.

I applied when the advertised. Other than confirmation of my application I have heard nothing. Should I get in touch with them?

Kiwi100,

There are loads of Flight Crew who would like a LCY base. Until we can sort out the scope agreement with our big brother nothing will happen.

timzsta,

BACF are notoriously slow at getting back to people, and have been since the days of Citiexpress. A qucik phone call would not hurt. Best of luck.
RJ

Apparently they are interviewing next week.

Thanks for all the info...
 

...it all helps, along with other sources to build an overall picture, and this kind of decision is always a difficult call. Really you need a crystal ball !:hmm:

Personally I think the outlook at CityFlyer is as rosy as it gets with European airlines for the next few years.

I'm putting my money where my mouth is, and accepted their job offer. I've resigned my current job .. and am very happy to be joining their fold.:)

Thanks again to all posters for their input.

Lcy Flight Deck Base
 

looks like BA Cityflyer will be opening a pilot base Sept or Oct. Being offered to current crews. Any short fall in crew numbers will be from new recruits. :ok:

I have an interview with Cityflyer this month, Looking for some info about the assessment.

Anyone on here who works for them that might be able to help?

Any LCY base will be in contravention of our SCOPE clause, and therefore the pilots flying it must be on the BA Mainline Seniority list.

I would therefore suggest that you treat any promise of an LCY base with the greatest suspicion.

[Note: Forget the OpenSkies debacle in court, this is confirmed as being subject to our SCOPE agreement with the company]

Well its been announced already, so looks like scope doesn't have much of a say on this one.

The scope agreement only covers AIRCRAFT based in London. It doesn't say anything about it's pilots.