Damn! i thought i had put my dear friend Tandem on my block list ! :p

I hear what you are saying tandem and your humour is noted. The currently fictional "KLM Lite" could well happen, but please read my post again, i think what is happening now is worse than the openskies KLM lite senario. KLM and AF are leasing out our jobs and futures to America this is not good at all.

As i have said in previous threads I support BA pilots in their struggle but you have to be careful here, I think the ban on recruitment to OS is probably counter productive, it would be very easy for BA to retrench this project to a country outside of europe and use non european crews to man it (see what KLM / AF are doing right now!:}:}). Then it would be impossible for BALPA to take an industrial action case out against a non EU company operating outside of the UK.

A very difficult situation to which i obviously do not have all the answers.

HMM Sounds like "scope" to me!


Thanks for your support last year too! From the Ex BA Group drivers who now live your worries!

Spot on TR, your persistence and interest in my personal situation are much appreciated.

NYC, what I forgot to mention was that the team at OS are a decent & pleasant bunch unlike the handful of guys here who misrepresent and let down their colleagues by attempting to bully & intimidate.

If it suits you go for it.

A lovely bunch indeed, such as the Rubber Glove who was best buddies with all the outstation staff in Europe and then as soon as he got a powerful management position made all his buddies redundant. There's also a deeply unpopular ex-BA 747 training captain there too. Like Min Drag says, a decent and pleasant bunch. Right up to the moment you turn your back........