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Arthur Dent1 1st May 2008 23:54

Sounds fairly intensive to me.

At least T5 makes things easier...ouch

RAFAT 2nd May 2008 01:55

I'm not sure of the hours requirements, but as far as I'm aware, and the case is similar with Virgin, is that to go BA long haul you must have jet time to satisfy JAA Zero Flight Time Training rules. I personally don't understand that rule myself but there you go.

GMIMA 3rd May 2008 11:06

Hi

What are the best night stops on the Euro fleet? ie the minibus?

ta

Fil 8th May 2008 15:27


I personally don't understand that rule myself but there you go.
I can't remember the exact numbers something like 100 hours of a multi engined aircraft over 25 tonnes with total hours in excess of XXXX.

What it means is that you do not need to practice take-offs and landings in the aircraft, just the sim. So the very first time you actually get into the aircraft, take it off, fly it,and land it (ok crunch it) you've got passengers on board...it's a full revenue flight. Being ZFT rated means you do a sim ride after your skill test just to fly the required number or circuits.

You will see 737's and 319's pounding the circuit occasionally these days but no longer will you catch a 747 (or 757, 767, 777) doing it. As this is a BA thread I'm only talking about BA aircraft, other operators may well take 747's into the circuit.

sickBocks 15th May 2008 21:49

ZFT requirements
 
Hi Fil - just as an aside here are the zft requirements:

http://www.jaa.nl/publications/jars/607069.pdf

Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 1.261(c)(2)
Approval of Aeroplane Zero Flight Time Type Rating [ ]Courses

3 REQUIRED PILOT EXPERIENCE
A pilot undertaking ZFTT course shall have completed, on a multi-pilot turbo-jet transport category
aeroplane or on a multi-pilot turbo-prop aeroplane having a MTOM of not less than 10 tonnes or an
approved passenger seating configuration of more than 19 passengers, at least:
(a) 1500 hours flight time or 250 route sectors if a flight simulator qualified to level CG, C or
interim C is used duering the course; or
(b) 500 hours flight time or 100 route sectors if a flight simulator qualified to level DG, Interim D or
D is used during the course.
When a pilot is changing from a turbo-prop to a turbo-jet aeroplane or from a turbo-jet to a turbo-prop
aeroplane, additional simulator training approved by the Authority shall be required.

The African Dude 15th May 2008 22:20

Hi chaps/chapesses, has anybody here made the jump either from eJ to BA or BA to eJ, and how have they found the change in lifestyle? Would be interested to hear a comparative view of the two SH lifestyles, obviously tours and nightstops are not the norm in eJ but other than that?... *curious*

bigjarv 16th May 2008 10:30

Why not ask this question as a new topic! Would be really interesting to see peoples opinions!

ChocksAwayUK 16th May 2008 12:54

Yeah, I second that. I was planning on making an 'ez to BA, how is it?' style topic if I get through Day 1 next month. I'm sure there'd be a lot of interest and some useful responses.

The African Dude 17th May 2008 00:34

Ok folks, have done as suggested! Good luck Chocks, and let us know how you get on.


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