Dogma,

!0% less pay and 20% more work than where?

Target hours at easy 800 per annum, I did 760 flying/1490 duty hours in the last 12 months.

Netjets captain,

Take home about 8500 euros after tax (including daily allowances)

That doesn´t include pension so I pay 1000 a month for it.

Still 7500 euros in the pocket is not bad at 30yrs. Also I like the flying and I work 6/5. Some small catches though, like social security is not as good as in legacy carriers, but far better then in loco´s. i still cannot figure out why people are accepting 3000 bucks when they can have 8500 :ugh: just because it´s a lightjet.

Freelance pilot working for a private owner. Global express.

9500 pre-tax. Allowance not included.

@fortuna76: because size does me matter.

Fifty Above - In real terms across the major UK airlines, easyjet Pilots T+C's are well below par and work harder. Roster disruption, poor rostering practise.....


Interesting to see that Andy H, has come clean. According to his "team", easyjet are offically no longer a "career airline", etc. And wants to scrap the fixed roster pattern.

ok
 

wants to scrap the fixed rostering pattern???????

Hey Dogma, easyjet turn you down did they?

This is a thread about take-home pay so take your beef elsewhere.

1924 hours per year for £900/Month

If I had a permanent job in an office (but I have made my own internet subscription site - so maybe £1000 per month and it's pretty fun meeting nice models :) ) So I feel 900 hours per year would be ok, Though you have it tough in the early starts and I suppose you have to spend time away which can cause stress. That emirates position seems amazing but dont know if i could live out there.

Working as a 2 year qualified veterinary surgeon, apparently the impression is that the wages are high.....
I work 4.5 days per week, 9-7each day, with 2 nights on call each week, with 1 in 4 weekends on call (sat am - mon), and 1 in 4 wkends off with a couple of saturday mornings each month on top.
(And no you don't get the next day off if you were on call the night before, even if you were in operating all night.)
All for the bargain wage of £1313/m take home
(with a house and a Micra thrown in).

I am currently trying to change career, 900hrs for anything more than I am on now, seems like a great deal to me!
(And you get to leave your work at work most of the time, at least when your flight has landed you don't sit at home worrying about it!)

hey, everybody can earn those splendid pilot wages!
 

... just become a pilot. it's up to you.
(and don't tell me you can't afford it. i know loads of guys flying for their banks.:ooh:)

I am a contract CRJ FO and I get paid 7500 USD/month tax free.

Scenic,

Sorry if you thought that I was belittling your profession, that is not what I was trying to do. I would love to be part of your profession, as despite the unusual starts, slightly dodgy hours, and medicals etc, it still seems to be a decent profession to be in.

I was merely comparing it with my current profession, in which my clients always think we vets are well/over paid, and they seem to think that I should work for free 'for the love of it' :ugh:.

I think pilots do a difficult job well, and initially it seems they are taken advantage of no-end having to pay so much to train and then do type training etc, but it seems after a couple of years, if you are lucky, the scales tip and you start to reap the rewards, which are quite decent!

A

A
I don't think you are sniping at pilots. If I were in your shoes and wanted to fly then I'd try. I think the pluses outweigh the negatives. I think the point being made is that you should be careful about believing what non pilots assume about the job. None of the F/O's I fly with jumped for joy when I told them that Simon Calder of the Independant has said that they earn an average of £100,000 per year!
I love my job, but it's not all a bed of roses, but I'm in the job I want to be in and that counts for a great deal. I was surprised that your salary was as you stated. Is there potential for improvement?
Best Regards
Pete

I agree Pete. I am not sure where Simon C get his facts and figures from, but I would be struggling to think of exactly where in the world an F/O could earn that sort of money. Possibly an experienced one (10 years plus) who has become an ex pat and earns that tax free but that's clutching at straws. As an airline Captain with over 20 years experience, I still havent reached those heights.
So in short A, do an awful lot of research before you commit your hard earned cash to the CAA's coffee fund.

Pete and Westie
Thanks for the replies

I hadn't even heard that Simon Calder had quoted £100000 as an average salary for a F/O! I was working on a monthly take home of maybe £2000-£3000 per month after a few years! ( I was basing it on the replies on this thread).

There is potential for improvement in my wages, but not a vast amount. A decent 'assistant' wage (i.e not someone who owns part of the company) is probably anywhere from £25-£35k depending on area, size of practice, etc Or if you work in a night clinic then you can get a high(ish) wage. But generally the hours are high, the pay is low, and the emotional blackmail is rife! Its not all bad (people do occasionally bring you chocolates!) just that the earning potential will never be that great.

And to be honest, flying was my first choice of career, but I was misinformed as a 16year old, and decided on another career path. I'm trying now (as a slightly more informed 26year old) to follow my original choice, the research of which appears quite difficult! I'm just trying to weigh up whether the investment could be rewarded, it appears that in the end it probably would be (all being well)! Staying hopeful! :ok:
A

ATR 42 capt.in Romania

3000 euro average net monthly
42 days annual vacation payed
no limit ID travel with our company
70 euro every month for own transportation
roster usually 5/1 or 6/2
1 week-end off every month
average flt hrs 65 monthly or 650 a year
no limit sick leave payed 75% (it happens mostly for cabin crew)
some bonus (Easter and Christmas)


:confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:

WHich airline is that for mate?

How about the lifestyle in Romania, is it worth it?

Romania is now a full member of EU but they are many steps to do...nevertheless it is in a positive movement....it is a nice country, you can see very friendly people ,Black Sea, Danube Delta,(unique in Europe),Carpathians Mounts and so on...for your information the average salary is near 4-500 euros net ,but the romanians are very tricky...and their income is pretty higher ....if you get a nice bar or restaurant in Bucarest , you can find cheap prices 10-15 euros a meal 1-2 euro a beer 6-8 euro a bottle of wine but accomodation (at least Bucarest) is pretty expensive.....Otherwise in markets you can have 2 beers for 1 euro etc....AND DON'T FORGET ROMANIAN GIRLS......

in Romania they are:
TAROM-romanian flag air operator hubs in Bucuresti Otopeni and Cluj-Napoca
BLUE AIR - low-cost air operator hub Bucuresti Baneasa
CARPATAIR hub in Timisoara


Brgds.

....AND DON'T FORGET ROMANIAN GIRLS......

You Naughty Boy ;)

I'm intrigued.

Where are the Danube Deltas in other continents?

I meant the uniqe delta in europe guy....sorry ,mushroom....