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suasdaguna 10th Jul 2006 10:35

aer lingus rostering?
 
is the rumour true that AL pilots are working harder than dogs and have split days off all the time with no sequence just lates rammed into earlies? ehh safety issues? Buddy of mine is keen to join if they recruit but from what I see it looks terrible. Surely this cant be true as if it was surely the the AL guys would be moaning on certain websites???? enlighten us..

dlav 10th Jul 2006 16:24

Much appreciated chaps. Great minds think alike :)

Mile High Driver - Couldn't agree more, but its nice to have a rough idea :ok:

Cheers

dlav

st patrick 26th Jul 2006 10:59

Suas, the lads and lass` are indeed working their little figers to the bone - well a lot of them anyway. i`d say they are too busy to moan on websites but it doesn`t stop them in ops!! The main problem is that the rosters are still manually written and there is a high turnover of personnel in crew scheduling which seems to result in requests being ignored in the rush to get the schedule crewed. If you put in a request you can be given split days of in order to grant that request, even if you have done 6 days before, or have 6 days after. "Its not that we are short of pilots - we just have too many flights"! (alleged to have been said by a managment type):O

flyerire 26th Jul 2006 11:09

Eh, i don't think so, if you have too many flights to fill, that means that you ARE short of pilots, hence the impending recruitment drive!

jebus 28th Jul 2006 06:53

Aer Lingus is one of the best airlines in the world to work for. Pay, working conditions and opportunities are first class.
The salary and allowances are excellent. The roster is stable, days off are guaranteed, and leave is relatively generous(though somewhat problematic). Travel concessions are also a major plus, with an excellent worldwide network and ease of access to them.
Those returning cadets will appreciate that. As Milehighdriver said, the seniority agreement is the cornerstone of a pilots life in Aer Lingus. It will never be allowed to be diluted. Anyone thinking they could swan in as a captain on the A330 had better look elsewhere.
Time to command quoted by all is rather generous. I think more realistic would be 8-10 years, but as was said earlier, its not a great concern for co-pilots in ei.

thebrother should be largely ignored. He knows not of which he speaks. :rolleyes:

TolTol 28th Jul 2006 12:21

According to ppjn, the cadets that have been brought back have fulfilled AL's requirements. So looking bad for us low houred guys:(

milehighdriver 28th Jul 2006 20:08

The cadets are just the start. Thirty odd cadets aren't going to help solve the shortage of pilots. With new aircraft arriving soon and the planned privatisation loomimg there's certainly going to be a queue forming soon. As regards low hours, who knows? You'd think they'd prefer airbus guys/gals, but in today's market, there probably aint a whole bunch out there that would fit the Aer Lingus profile. After that, I'd imagine if your face fits then your in with a chance.

Solstice 28th Jul 2006 21:42

D'ont be too worried about the face fitting. AL genuinely has every type of face, with guys/gals from every background. Airbus rating is probably an advantage but definitely wont be a must I'd imagine. There is also a proven track record of taking pilots with very low hours. Yeah, the competition might be strong when they do advertise, but any guy/gal who is really keen and most importantly down to earth stands as good a chance as any, regardless of hrs/rating.

suasdaguna 31st Jul 2006 08:01


Originally Posted by jebus
Aer Lingus is one of the best airlines in the world to work for. Pay, working conditions and opportunities are first class.
The salary and allowances are excellent. The roster is stable, days off are guaranteed, and leave is relatively generous(though somewhat problematic).

i just have to pick you up here.....the current rostering is appalling...lates rammed into earlies....split days and no life style. We are running out of hours and it is creaking at the seams re continuity.

jebus 1st Aug 2006 13:00

I'm well aware. You'll see I chose my words carefully! ;)

corsair 5th Aug 2006 22:36


Originally Posted by suasdaguna
i just have to pick you up here.....the current rostering is appalling...lates rammed into earlies....split days and no life style. We are running out of hours and it is creaking at the seams re continuity.

Hence the need for more pilots. I for one would love to fly for Aer Lingus. It was THE job to get for my generation in Ireland. I too want to wear the shamrock wings, buy a house in Malahide and join the yacht club. Sigh:cool:

The trouble is my name isn't Feargal, Connor, Grainne or some other Irish middle class name and I never could get my tongue round the mid atlantic Hiberno English that all EI pilots seem to use. :{

Ok I exaggerate and I know it's not all rosy in the walled garden. But I think that reputation in itself will attract applicants not least from Irish ex-pats working abroad right now. It certainly will attract my application but I feel I have more chance of winning the lotto.

Aer Lingus I think still has remnants of the old glamour that was attached to airlines like Pan Am. (Probably not a good example, I know). Aer Lingus was a great company to work for once.

dlav 6th Aug 2006 08:45


buy a house in Malahide and join the yacht club
ive got a canoe if that will help me......:} :ok:

suasdaguna 7th Aug 2006 16:17

corsair, this is a forum for adults not children.:=

corsair 21st Aug 2006 19:26

Oh, :{ I couldn't be a child if I can remember when working for Aer Lingus was glamourous to the uninitiated. In fact I couldn't be a child if I can remember when working for any airline was glamourous. :hmm:

Now as it's way past my bedtime I'm off to beddie byes. If you are cruel to me again I will tell Danny was suasdaguna really means:p You wait:=

Bearcat 21st Aug 2006 21:40

nice one corsair!

expect recruiting from Jan on i reckon. currently ex jerez cadets going thru training....when they are done it will be open season re recruiting.:ok:

S-crew'd 23rd Dec 2006 12:56

Aer Lingus - Direct Entry Pilots
 
Aer Lingus are advertising for direct entry pilots for the 320 based out of DUB.. details here

Requirements start at:
  • IAA or JAR- FCL ATPL (or Frozen ATPL).
  • Current Class 1 Medical Certificate.
  • Permanently eligible to live and work in Ireland with an unrestricted worldwide passport.
  • Priority will be given to those applicants who hold a current A320 type rating and have at least 500 hours on type and 1000 hours in total.
(If the above link fails go to www.aerlingus.com > About Us > Careers & Vacanices)

pipertommy 23rd Dec 2006 18:15

Aer lingus
 
Hi what is the recruitment process ?Tried a search but no up to date info?Thanks

Cloud Chaser 23rd Dec 2006 19:41


Essential Requirements:

To be considered for a position as Aer Lingus Direct Entry Pilot, applicants must be able to meet the following essential criteria:
IAA or JAR- FCL ATPL (or Frozen ATPL).
Current Class 1 Medical Certificate.
Collection & Drop-off of Aer Lingus Staff.
Permanently eligible to live and work in Ireland with an unrestricted worldwide passport.
Anyone clarify what the third point means?

iae2500 23rd Dec 2006 20:08

No idea what the 3rd point means.
I wonder if there would be alot of interest in this, Dublin is an expensive place to live and times are uncertain in Aer Lingus, and considering the pay on joining ( as per PPJN ) most guys who would have the minimum requirements would be most likely flying outside of Ireland and for better money. I am guessing this will attract more locals then anything!
Am I wrong?? All recruitment is good however for any job hunters.

hawkwing 23rd Dec 2006 21:01

cloud chaser,
was wondering that myself,
to take a guess, it may mean that you have a driving licence so as you can drive crew vans/cars to and from apron,
just a (not so educated) guess.


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