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Mike Mercury 16th Jun 2007 20:39

Silverjet
 
Never mind 'Leonardo', I hear that 'Hutcho' has turned down BA RHS 747 + guaranteed management job for the dee-eff-ohship at Silverjet. Remarkable from both the individual and the corporate perspective. Mind you, I'd love to know how his redundancy package compared with a line pilot!

Oh, and BTW (customer report):

In early June ’07 I was scheduled to on Silverjet from EWR to LTN and return a few days later. On the morning of my outbound flight I went to Silverjet's website to check my flight’s status - it said cancelled due to mechanical problem. I immediately called Silverjet and the agent informed me that she would call me back within a half hour. After 45 minutes with no call I called Silverjet again. The agent informed me that she could get me an economy class seat on a Virgin flight a few hours after Silverjet's scheduled departure. I told her that wouldn't do - I wanted a business class seat since that is what I paid for, and I needed an earlier flight or else I would miss my first meeting in London. The Silverjet agent told me that the Virgin economy class seat on the flight she offered me was all she could do for me - effectively telling me take it or leave it. I left it. I cancelled my Silverjet ticket and got a full refund. I then booked a last minute ticket on BA. I found Silverjet's "mechanical problems" excuse suspect. A few days before the flight I logged in to change my seat and noted the flight was only one quarter full. Though I don't know, I'm inclined to believe that when flights are not sufficiently full and it is uneconomic for it to operate the flight, Silverjet cancels the flight, tells customers it is for mechanical reasons and offers them an economy class seat on another airline. I will not give Silverjet another chance. Not only did I not appreciate being left in the lurch by Silverjet, I was left with the very unpleasant feeling that I'd been scammed.
'Hutcho' will feel at home here.......

Tandemrotor 16th Jun 2007 22:56

Mike Mercury

If you are correct about PH, perhaps he won't be out of the BA 'fold' for very long!!

Watch this space for the next BA franchise??

Purely hypothetical of course. :rolleyes:

FAStoat 19th Jun 2007 16:42

Further thoughts re Bacon and Flybe
 
In the past,any Budget InterEuropean Airline taken over or part taken over by BA European Div,makes for an Ideal Direct Entry Command on the RJ85 or 100,,or if you like the 195,by Retired @55 Mainline Captains on low Salaries,since they have already their full Final salary BA Pension.Any one thought of that before.In a past life we called them KLINGONS,and watched for them off the starboard bow.In spite of management denials,they soon became full TRI/TRE or the then equivalent,and installed the BA BxxlSxxt.It meant poor SFOs had even more time to wait,and reduced LH seaters to even more waiting for proper jet salaries.,and Training Captains had to put up with it.With regard to Flybe,you only have to look at who is running it to find a very ruthless individual.His history at his previous Airline left a lot to be desired,when Jets were put into Leeds;the pax figures were adjusted and all seats were found to be full when they were not,and surprise, Jersey European got the business.We lost the Jets at Leeds, and then the Exeter Base and then ALL the Channel Island business.Certain complicit management left to join him,and now Flybe is the result.I would beware of that as well,for the future.

zzz 19th Jun 2007 21:31

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MANAGP 21st Jun 2007 09:33

Marlowe

The Little Prince has summed it up better than I ever could!

skianyn vannin 21st Jun 2007 11:04

Well its not very often I agree with The Little Prince, however this time he's hit the nail squarely on the head. Did forget one bit though. CP can't fly worth a ****. Anyone remember the Barbie Jet incident when he got his astronauts wings?

ppl_student 25th Jun 2007 15:42

CityFlyer scheme at FTE
 
Does anyone here have any inside info about how many places will be available on the latest FTE scheme?

Also, to anyone who has been through the selection in the past, what is involved in the final stage interview? Are there any group exercises etc?

Thanks for any pointers :)

BAladdy 22nd Oct 2007 01:52

RJ85 on the way
 
The much awaited RJ85 are now due Q1/2008

Aircraft are Blue1's OH-SAH and OH-SAI. Aircraft returning to Bae and then to be leased to BACF

Also new advertising campaign to start to promote LCY to leisure aswell as business pax

DutchBird-757 3rd Nov 2007 16:07

1st one will be delivered in Feb08. 2nd one somewhat later. Both aircraft come with all the available options from BAE. (ie Acars, GNLU)

HZ123 3rd Nov 2007 17:42

I assume that they replace the Rj100's. I must be missing the point with less capacity and more competition how will the RJ85 make equal / more monies.

Bacon Slicer 6th Nov 2007 15:44

BA Shittyflyer
 
Just found this thread after a while away - It was dire then and it is clearly dire now- why oh why does BA not put this sad operation out of its misery? is it some sort of gentleman's club or a
masons lodge?

CP , the stuffy PH and that silly DD should be made at last to walk the plank!



AA xx


Little Prince - maybe we could celebrate in the pub with a small sherry afterwards?

DutchBird-757 7th Dec 2007 15:47

In order to centralise all the BA Cityflyer info, I'll make a small summary of the latest developments. Please post further replies concerning the company in this thread, whenever possible.

What I'd like to add.
Aircraft wise:
- 2 x RJ85 from Blue1. 1st one will arrive in February, second one in June of 2008. My guess is theyll be used on the longer runs óut of LCY where our RJ100's are more restricted. (MAD/WAW)
- 2 RJ100's, (AR/AS) will remain in the fleet bringing the total number or a/c to 12.(includes the 2 RJ85's)

Destinations:
- BACF from LCY will drop Milan and raise ZRH from 4 to 5 daily. Furthermore there will be 4 new destinations added to the network from LCY. Thus going from 7 to 10 destinations. Being;

LCY - AMS, from 6th may 2008 4x daily (+ KLM 6x daily and VLM 12x daily)
LCY - WAW, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - BCN, from 6th may 2008 daily
LCY - NCE, from 6th march daily

Release here: http://www.flightline.co.uk/travelne...es-new-routes/

-AMS and ZRH are gonna be nightstops.

Crew:
- Flightcrew based in EDI and GLA. (pilots from GLA area are given choice to operate flights out of GLA, incl the nightstops, as their preference)
- Cabincrew base also in LCY
- Still cabin and flightdeck training in progress. Flightdeck wise I think the next class will start in Jan 2008. More info is welcome...
- Recruitment lately? Anyone?

Pay/contract/bond wise:
- I haven't got a clue of what's going on right now. So if anyone can fill us in, please do so. (keep it constructive pls, no bashing :D)

Future:
- Well, who knows. The aircraft are getting older. Don't think we'll ever merge fully into BA mainline as I don't think BA (unions) will allow our aircraft (100+ seats) to be base in London area, same with our crew force. My thought is that BACF will base the 2 RJ85's in LCY once there's space available. The're below 100 seats so mainline can't refuse that. (right?!)
- Expansion is a welcome sight and a promising note of how BA mainline sees BA Citflyer.
- New/improved catering concept on domestic and international flights offered in Club and Traveller. Together with the cabin enhancements brought in from BA mainline.
- Lot's of rumors about new aircraft to replace the current RJ's. But that's life and nobody knows anything constructive. So keep speculating... :ok:

If I forgot anything, or you disagree, then feel free to respond. But as said before, keep it constrcutive and :mad: free.

DutchBird-757 22nd Dec 2007 16:00

He FlatBroke,

We are still reqruiting F/O's at the moment as far as I'm aware. We currently have more f/o's than captains but the numbers are getting more equal as we speak. There are a couple of new f/o classes starting next year for sure.

The future looks bright. BA's investing and is positively involved, we're expanding and things like the Glasgow 2014 Commonwealth Games and LCY expanding surely help. The routes are doing well also.


Good luck with the applying!

Luibar 23rd Dec 2007 00:23

Good evening

What is the pay for captains?

Thank you

Sir Thomas 24th Dec 2007 12:07

I think that all the flightcrew are based in EDI. They can ,If their trip starts with a positioning or operating sector out of GLA, start there.I believe crewing will allow people that, but officially everyone is still in EDI to the best of my knowledge.
ta ta

DutchBird-757 28th Dec 2007 18:17

Correct indeed. All based in EDI but able to give GLA preference to rostering. Seems to work very well from what I've heared.

MIKECR 29th Dec 2007 21:31

Anyone know what the preferred method of application is for FO's?

MIKECR 30th Dec 2007 18:36

Thanks for the info. Im based within 45 mins of both EDI and GLW so just wondering if theyre interested in local guys at all. I've got my fATPL(modular) but a little low on hours(just short of 400)

towser 31st Dec 2007 07:42

If you don't ask you never know but as LF says there seems to be a surplus of F/O's at the minute and still a few being trained.

MIKECR 31st Dec 2007 10:28

Very true! The online system wont accept any new applications at present though. Anyone know who's best to write to or email?


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