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I was referring to completion of contract bonus at the end of the 5 yrs. But maybe things changed and you get what was promised!

Yeah I never got anything after I signed on other than my salary. No COS either.

Hi guys
Any Captains on B738 at KAL that PM me their roster for the last month or two so as I can get a good idea on flying/days off etc.
Many thanks

How the home base program work?

No need to put the cart infront of the horse . You have to be hired first before you can apply. Its not ever mentioned before this.

If you are not B777 , its fairly restricted, and seasonal , depending on frequency. Also expect to do full tax return in home base once assigned.

Hi guys,

anyone here from Germany working for Korean Air via Rishworth on the A330 as a Captain?
I am currently working on the A 330 for Eurowings in Cologne as a Comander.
Recently I passed the selection process for KAL and I would like to ask some questions concerning taxation and rostering/ Rishworth and so on... please pm me if your are willing to share some insider info. I never had a contract job before and am very uncertain if i will get what i was offered in my contract with Rishworth.

Many thanks in advance

Seems the internet is full of jobs at Korean from every man and his dog.I dont think there is much difference between them all, as far as I see taxes are paid in Korea.
How is the situation on the A330 in INC at the moment, nothing much update about screening / training fails or success.
What procedures (Airbus or Company) are they currently using. EFB or just AB paper.
Would be nice to get some updated infomation from a expat or two,

What is the perceived security situation at the moment

If Trump strikes, the nuclear fallout wont hit Seoul. :)

I got a couple of questions for the folks in the know, I have used the search and went through all the posts but I would like to have accurate/updated infos before I apply for A330 NTR CPT position:

1-could someone compiles a sort of list of which agency is the best among the following 3: CCL, GAP, TAS (I am based in Europe if that makes a difference)

2-how is the interview process and background checks? I just finished working at management level, for a small outfit that went bankrupt and everybody disappeared like snow under the sun (I do have plenty of referees from previous jobs...)

3-is still a very long training process 4-5 month?

4-are they happy with electronic logbook or should I pay my son to fill in the lines?

5-do you get ID tickets with other airlines?

Thanks for the help

I have just seen this:
roadshow for Korean air in Abu Dhabi.

Visit ::: Welcome to Total Aviation Service - TAS ::: for more information.
“Job Opportunity Information Sessions for Korean Air”
Job Security & Personal Lifestyle
Join the 400 plus expat crews at Korean Air and keep your family home secure while still enjoying a prosperous career flying wide-body jets worldwide. A roster that offers you guaranteed 11 days off in a row per month, of your choosing, plus 3 days of travel in business class to and from home. That is 2 weeks off in total every month.
Information Sessions will be held on February 15th and 16th, 2018
Al Raha Beach Hotel ~ Abu Dhabi
Al Raha Beach Corniche, Abu Dhabi 38616 ph: +971(2)5080555
Feb. 15 : 1st session: 10:00a ~ 12:00p, 2nd session: 14:30p ~ 16:30p
Feb. 16 : 10:00a ~ 12:00p
The Session will provide more information on Korean Air, the training and selection program, commuting, and details of the comprehensive and competitive remuneration package.

Why Korean Air?

“No need to relocate residence.” – Korean Air is offering an excellent commuting contract.
You and your family can enjoy better lifestyle.

Commuting
Every month pilot’s commute travel provided by KAL. The pilot can choose one of 128 cities Korean Air operates from as a base for commuting.

Days off and Annual Leave
All crew members are given 9 consecutive days off per month. Three travelling days are provided additionally. Two days of annual leave (up to 7 days monthly, 24 days yearly) can be combined to those days~9-16 days/mo, at Home!

Almost all of your leave requests are granted, protected and guaranteed.

Contract Term
Five Years, renewable until 65 for Captains, and 55 for First Officers.

Accommodations
5* Star hotels in Seoul and overseas.

Generous Employee Ticket Benefits Generous travel benefits for the pilot and their family members.
Flight crew leasing agency provider to Korean Air

Minimum Requirements
Captain
• Age Limit: less than 60(TR) 55(NTR) years at time of Joining
• Recent Flight :
-OnType: within 1 year (2 yr, if current MC Jet)
-NonTypeRated (NTR): within 6 mos on Like Type
(1 yr, if current MC Jet).

B744/B777/A380/A330/B737NG:
Total Flight Time: 7000hrs (B737NG 5,000)
Total MultiCrew Jet: 5000hrs (B737NG 4,000)
Total PIC MultiCrew Jet: 2,500hrs (B737NG 2,000)
On Type: 1,000hrs (PIC, or w/ some FO credit)
B777NTR: 1,000hrs (B767/B747-4-8)
A330NTR: 1,000hrs (A319/320/321/340).

First Officer
• Age Limit: less than 45 years at time of Joining
• Total Flight Time: 2,000hrs (B737NG 1,000)
• MultiCrew Jet: 1,000hrs
• Recent Flight :
-On Type: within 1 year (2 yr, if current MC Jet)
-NTR: within 6 mos (1 yr, if current MC Jet).

B744/B777/A380/A330/B737NG:
On Type: 500hrs
B777NTR: 500hrs (B767/B747-4-8)
A330NTR: 500hrs (A319/320/321/340).

Any news from KAL? Stll happy expats or did everyone left for China :-)
They were doing some roadshows so it seems that they are in need of pilots.
It looks like a stable commuting roster. Anyone knows if you choose your 11 days or is that done by KAL? How long in advanced would you know your timr off?

Get in touch with the contract agency that you are thinking of using. I am at the stage of evaluating Korean and the questions I have had so far have been fully answered and promptly too.

You do seem to have some influence on when your days off are.

Any up to date info on KAL? I am a 777 FO looking to escape the ME and get back home. How is the average flying hours and is life as an FO bearable at KAL? Thanks!!

It's a difficult gig being a ex-pat FO at KAL. Consider such a move very very carefully.

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Originally Posted by Emma Royds (Post 10170241)

It's a difficult gig being a ex-pat FO at KAL. Consider such a move very very carefully.

I can confirm that through friends who flew at KAL as both FO and Captain. As a 'ROUND EYE' expat you will be treated very badly. Their management style is 'put the fear of god into them' type management where your next sim check is your last if you step on the wrong toes.

I know of 4 pilots who all told me to avoid like the plague. All good pilots, decent people you would gladly share the cockpit with and a beer after work. I personally never flew there but I trust these guys and would certainly never apply.

Good luck if you do though...hope it all pans out for you.

Thanks for the info, definitely avoid then!

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Originally Posted by Daddy Fantastic (Post 10170756)

Absolute rubbish, for starters the sims are staffed by mostly retired ex-USA guys who are for the most part there to help, so your suggestion that it can be used as a threat is completely wrong, as for your other suggestion that management puts the fear of god into the expat community again absolute rubbish, compared to somewhere like EK, my old employer, KE management are a decent enough bunch. Once through training you are left alone provided you keep you nose clean.

The pilots I know who were there are all decent guys who dont lie. They are 4 very skilled aviators with plenty of experience. The chances of 4 people walking out and individually telling me the same story which then turn out to be a lie is just too remote...

Seems like somebody is possibly a management mole or brown nosing their way up...either way plenty of pilots will confirm the bad treatment they had at KA......Lets not kid ourselves about how bad Asian and Middle East management of airlines and their crews really are!

I know two. One, a decent guy who was on the 737, said he was well treated, but left because the (off network) commute became a pain. The other, a very odd guy on the 747, who left in short order. It's a pity the pay on the 737 is so uncompetitive for expat rates.