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Gravox 26th Oct 2006 20:37

Congrats,
If it doesn't rain it pours. You find yourself in a very envious position,to be able to have a choice between two operators. You only, can make the desicion so it requires plenty of thought.

I have a friend who use to fly for RBA on the B757, and used it as a stepping stone to move on to bigger and better things. He said he was over worked and under paid, and didn't really like living in Brunei?

Best of luck with you choice

PPRuNeUser0215 27th Oct 2006 06:31

Although we all think at some stage that flying bigger is flying better, the real difference between one job and another is Lifestyle.
With similar types, of course this is not part of your question but in my opinion, even if it was, it shouldn't make that much difference.
So best to establish what life you want for the next few years. Perhaps a bit of adventure would suit you, in that case RBA could be a nice change from the European life you know.
Or if you already have kids and family (or short term plans), you would be better off staying in Malta/Europe.
Perhaps you should also consider the stability of the currency you will be paid in, cost of living, saving possibility, career prospects.
Then again chances are, because it is your first airline job that you end your career with either of them so you might want to go for the one offers the most diversity/fun etc...

In any case, you can't go wrong because once you have a Bus or a Bong on your licence, you will never be in the situation you have been in until now.

If it was me, I would go for the sunny place so I can have my boat moored not too far and use it most of the year. ;)

tom775257 27th Oct 2006 08:24

Isn't Brunei a 'dry' country... 'nuff said! Still I guess it would be cool to live somewhere completely different.
I might see you in Malta, I'm starting next month... I take it you got the call yesterday too??

Too much celebrating last night...feel ill...off to bed again!!

scroggs 27th Oct 2006 10:06

While this topic should really remain in Wannabes, there is unlikely to be anyone there who can adequately answer your questions. Hence the move to T&E, where you're more likely to find people who have experienced employment in these airlines.

Scroggs

P.S. This thread might help: Air Malta. I can find nothing useful about Royal Brunei, though you might try a Google Advanced search on RBA.

flysi 27th Oct 2006 10:42

AMEX - Thanks for your advice. Lifestyle will be the deciding factor.


TOM 775257 - Yes, I got the call yesterday. Have you decided on Malta, then? If yes, any reason other than being able to go boozing?

From what I gather, there are roster and pay issues with both airlines. Wonder if that's just airline pilots having a whinge?

Bad Robot 27th Oct 2006 12:00

Ad appeared in Flight again on 17th Oct, this is the 3rd time I have applied but with no response at all from Air Malta:confused:

Exactly what requirements and experience levels do they require, as I would seem to fit their minimums?:ugh:

BR.

tom775257 27th Oct 2006 12:31

Hi flysi,

I only had the one job offer so no choice involved. However for me the lifestyle in Malta seems in line with what I like in life. I can sail, scuba dive, there is a good night life, good food etc. I guess the other issue is how far you are happy to be away from friends and family, and that depends on you personally. My brother moved to Seattle, absolutely loved it there, however returned home due to that reason. Sorry I can't help you further, and good luck with your decision.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Brunei_Airlines

http://www.travellersworldwide.com/1...unei-about.htm

Tom.

Bus429 27th Oct 2006 13:15

Air Malta
RBA is under resourced but full of plans that rarely - if ever - materialise. That said, interesting part of the world. Have a look at previous posts concerning RBA over the years.

flysi 27th Oct 2006 15:01

BAD ROBOT - I have no idea what Air Malta's minimum requirements are. I, and about half a dozen others, got job offers this week having done A320 type ratings at GECAT. Experience levels range from 250 hours up to 1500 hours, although none has airline experience. A quick interview and a sim ride.


TOM - The social scene on Malta should be good, especially with a few of us going from GECAT. Just concerned about no pay for two months...

BANANASBANANAS 27th Oct 2006 15:27

I have no experience of Malta so can't comment on that side of the argument but I did work for 9 years for RBA on the "Bong" fleet so can perhaps offer some insight into Brunei in general and RBA in particular.

Brunei is indeed a "dry" country but you will discover a million and one ways around that. Don't let that put you off.

I left RBA just over a year ago and the Airbus fleet was definitely a better run, fairer and much happier outfit than the Boeing fleet. What you do need to be aware of is that RBA is undergoing a major (and fairly haphazard from what I hear) fleet change which may well involve the A319 A320 fleet being taken in part ex as part of a deal which sees B773 and B738 arrive. You need to make sure that when the music stops you will still have a seat!

The training you will receive by RBA is pretty good in all fairness but the shine can wear off very quickly. If you are just looking for a couple of years "fun in the sun" and receive (in your contract) adequate assurances about A319 A320 longevity then I would definitely recommend it as a stepping stone to better things. Otherwise I would take a close look at what Malta has to offer. PM me if you want any more specifics.:ok:

geraldn 27th Oct 2006 18:08

are u going to be part or full time ??,based in malta or uk??,

congrats

Bad Robot 27th Oct 2006 21:00

It would appear that Air Malta are only interested in Young blades with limited experience levels.:{

BR.

767Pilot 28th Oct 2006 04:40

Flew for both.
Would say go for Air Malta without a doubt. Wouldn"t go back to Brunei, ever. But would go back to Malta.

flysi 28th Oct 2006 11:26

BAD ROBOT - At least two of those offered a place with Air Malta are in their mid to late 30's, so it's not necessarily just for "young blades". We were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time.

GERALDN - It's a full-time two year contract with Air Malta, of which at least the first 400 hours would be flown from Malta. After that, perhaps Bristol or Birmingham.

EPSILON... - I've no idea why you have not been offered a position. Why do the airlines do half of the things they do? There seems to be no rhyme or reason to the recruitment policies. Good luck.

Bad Robot 28th Oct 2006 18:22

I'm sure there is an element of luck for those recently successful but you would have thought those of us who weren't, would at least had some sort of aknowledgement one way or the other; or even dare I say it an interview? After at least showing our enthusiasm by applying several times and still keeping our fingers on the pulse.

BR.

Dmax 29th Oct 2006 01:35

Do you know if Air Malta is looking for 737 Type Rated?

Wich metod did you use to apply to Air Malta?

Thanks
Davide

cruisecontrol 3rd Nov 2006 15:32

Hi all, and congratulations to those with job offers, it must be a great feeling to have to choose between employers!

I just wondered if anyone who has successfully completed the GECAT SSTRs would be prepared to comment on the age profile of candidates there? I'm in my early 40s with a frozen ATPL and the necessary funding in place, however I think I might be on the old side now for acceptance onto a course and for subsequnt employment with the airlines.

Any advice/comments much appreciated.

flysi 3rd Nov 2006 18:20

Hello cruisecontrol,

On my SSTR course at GECAT, we had the following:

1. a 146 captain (in his fifties, I think, but he might slap me for writing that), who is presently flying RJ's for some ridiculous sum of money. I'm not sure if he'll bother going for an Airbus job as a result.

2. a 36 year old flying instructor (with 1,300 hours). He has a job offer with Air Malta.

3. a 28 year old former weather girl who had 250 hours and 5 minutes. She has an interview coming up with another airline.

4. a 38 year old air taxi pilot (over 1,400 hours) who will be joining Air Malta.

There was another 38 year old on the course after mine, but he has yet to get an interview.

Suggest you contact GECAT and discuss it further with them. Speak to Debbie French (tel; 01293 596712).

PPL152 13th Jan 2007 05:26

They had a call for a applications last year from late Summer till December.

Their requirements included

1) Multi-Engine CPL/IR

2) 1 Advanced Level at Grade C or better from Maths, Physics, Computing or Business Studies.

3) 5 GCSE 'O' Levels to include Maths, English and Maltese.


I believe their call of applications is now closed.

Regards,
PPL152

chrislikesblue 13th Jan 2007 07:52

I believe they are still hiring fos with A320 type rating,could someone confirm this?

CLEAR4T/O 13th Jan 2007 16:27

They sure are...
 
This link will take you there, they are looking for drivers in both bristol and birmingham. Absolute minimum are cpl/ir and a320 rating....
http://www.aviationjobsearch.com/emp...40&vacID=63329

manuelvi 16th Feb 2007 14:14

Air Malta
 
Hi all.
Does anyone have any info about air malta's status of pilots selections?
There was an opening till end of december, did some of you has been called? do you know anything about their selections?

thanks to everyboy

MV

skylog 16th Feb 2007 17:18

Are you referring to the call of applications for pilots with type submitted on flight international or for the call of applications for cadet pilots open only to maltese nationals??

manuelvi 16th Feb 2007 17:20

Sorry if i was imprecise.
Yes i am referring on the rated on 320 opening published eather on flight global and on their home page.

MV

skylog 16th Feb 2007 17:51

Im more informed regarding the cadet applications ,however regarding the type one ,all those that had to be called 12 in all have commenced,its a 2 year contract,based in malta with the option of returning to the uk after a while.

manuelvi 16th Feb 2007 17:54

Thank you, so there is no more need of pilots there as i understand..
cheers.

PS: on the advertise i have seen they were looking for two bases in england...

skylog 16th Feb 2007 18:03

As far as i know but dont take my word for it ,however i think a new call came out for applications regarding 2 bases(one of them BHX),Most of the recruits came from the GECAT & CTC programmes.

manuelvi 16th Feb 2007 18:15

Ok, yes this is it and do you know if they are still recruiting for these bases?
sorry for all these questions but i'm very interested in air malta:) :)

thank you for your support

cheers

Xelcia 24th Feb 2007 00:49

Air Malta
 
Hello All,

I was hoping someone out there might be able to post some info on
the assessment with Air Malta, I am due for an interview with them at
London Heathrow on the 11th of March and any info regarding the
assessment would be very helpful! (Sim Profile, Tech Q's, Interview, etc)

Thank 4 the time,

Xelcia ;)

Gattaca 24th Feb 2007 14:24

If you are experienced on the A320:-

A sim ride at GECAT which will also be your Rating renewal with a TRI/TRE and a very straightforward interview with Chief Pilot or GMFO.

If you are typerated but not experienced on the A320 :-

If you come from GECAT,interview plus sim ride at the Gatwick facility,if you have already done the psycometric test at GECAT this is valid for Airmalta if not you will be asked to sit for one.

PM me if you have any additional questions regarding pay conditions etc

Fly Ginger 28th Feb 2007 08:01

Xelcia
 
hi, would be interested to know your background (hours, type etc...). Probably sounds a bit cheeky but just interested. Pm if you like.:)

green-dot-speed 28th Feb 2007 10:22

Best way to apply???
thanx guys

SinBin 28th Feb 2007 13:47

Rumours afloat, recent GECAT 'cadets' got paid £12 a day at Air Malta, until you got 80 hours, however getting the 80 hours is taking a lifetime as they've been told to go back home to the UK and are still waiting to go back some since Xmas. If you're going to GECAT as I am, be wary of this deal at the end. All a little bit strange, pay is low I hear.

Bad Robot 28th Feb 2007 14:22

What happened to the £38K plus, for F/O's that they advertised last year then?:confused:

BR.

SinBin 28th Feb 2007 14:32

No idea, all sounds a little dodge if you ask me!

Fly Ginger 1st Mar 2007 07:55

sin bin
 
there is, to be fair some truth in what you are saying. However, there are also reasons why these things have happened. The major one which is lack of training captains is being addressed right now.

Do your homework......... pm me if you wish

SinBin 1st Mar 2007 09:45

I stand corrected, as I said, this was a rumour, so one for the rumour network?!

Is the situation improving for you guys?

Fly Ginger 1st Mar 2007 11:16

SR 10
 
Well said sir.........

To be fair sin bin, you are right, this is a rumour network!!!!
I think that there is light at the end of the tunnel..... i think we all didn't know just how long the tunnel was. Chatting to friends at other employers it could also be said that the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

I keep telling myself that anyway.............

Just remember.................... fly ginger

Jetset320 17th Mar 2007 19:14


Salaries for new recruits based in Malta are considerably lower than the above, however you have to consider living costs being comparably lower etc
Not too sure about your statement on the cost-of-living here in Malta. Apart from (perhaps) rent, everyday cost-of-living here is much the same as UK, in many cases more expensive. At any rate, the cost of living in Malta is certainly not 100% less than UK........

the bald eagle 18th Mar 2007 01:23

Guys and Gals

You might be intrested to see another thread on the Air Malta topic in the interview jobs/sponsorship section under Air Malta abinitio sponsorship vacancies thread

I must warn you (what looks like 2 KM pilots) tell the truth on what its like to be a KM driver...it don't look to good :{ but thats why we all enjoy prune...have a read and chuck your thoughts at us.:)


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