BA: Six consecutive early duties
Dear All,
As a newbie Nigel I’ve been by and large, pretty happy with life. That said there are a few areas (e.g force drafting and that good ol’ entrenched militant unionism) that have left me scratching my head a little from time to time...! What I’d like to concentrate on though, is BA’s apparent alleviation from CAP 371 in respect of early duties. Specifically, CAP371 Section B Part 7 (Jan 2004) says… ------------------------------------------- 7 Additional Limits on Flying 7.1 Late Finishes/Early Starts 7.1.1 The conditions set in this paragraph only apply when a crew member is acclimatised. 7.2 Sleep deprivation, leading to the onset of fatigue, can arise if a crew member is required to report early for duty, or finishes a duty late, on a number of consecutive days. Therefore, not more than 3 consecutive duties that occur in any part of the period 0100 to 0659 hours local time can be undertaken, nor may there be more than 4 such duties in any 7 consecutive days. Any run of consecutive duties (Late Finishes or Nights or Early Starts) can only be broken by a period of not less than 34 consecutive hours free from such duties. This 34 consecutive hours may include a duty that is not an Early, Late or Night duty. ------------------------------------------- Fair enough, that was maximum 3 earlies in a row or 4 in seven days. Lets compare this with BA’s FCO 1113… ------------------------------------------- 1113 Late Finishes/Early Starts a) The conditions set in this paragraph only apply when a crew member is acclimatised. b) Sleep deprivation, leading to the onset of fatigue, can arise if a crew member is required to report early for duty, or finishes a duty late, on a number of consecutive days. The following restrictions shall apply for crew members to any sequence of duties involving 4 or 5 duties occurring in any part of the period 0100 to 0659 local time between consecutive days off: i) The minimum rest period before the start of such a series of duties shall be 34 hours. ii) The sequence shall contain at most 6 duties averaging not more than 9 hours per day iii) so on and so forth... ------------------------------------------- Hmmm, you read it right, whereas the recommendation form the national regulating authority is no more than 3 earlies in a row, BA seem to have an alleviation from this to go up to 6. I didn’t start writing this post in order to have a public moan, but having now had the joy of the six-earlies-in-a-row experience first hand, I can confirm that particularly by day six, I am a long way from being the sharpest tool in the box :hmm:; I imagine there are plenty reading this who can concur. Supposing one was unfortunate enough to have an incident/accident on day six and the Daily Mail got wind of the info…? :oh: Really, I’d just be grateful to hear from others with more knowledge/background on the matter that me and would care to comment, perhaps about how this came to be. CAP 371 is downloadable from the CAA website. |
You don't post your roster, so this is a guess;)
I'm betting that at least 2 of those "early starts" are not early by about err............ 1minute, also don't confuse your start in GMT to that in local time around Europe where you are alclimatised:{ As i said earlier its just a guess:rolleyes: |
Aaahaa, the penny drops! Thanks for the info, Dog, I hadn't quite put 2 and 2 together there and upon further reading it clears things up a little.
However, even taking into account the "acclimatised when local time is +/- 2 hours" rule, I believe there are still plenty of trips around featuring four consecutive early starts, which still exceeds the CAA guidline. Anyone else had any proper cases of 5-6 earlies in a row? |
every other week with the orange oufit!!!! Ah well at least you get staff travel!!
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fly charter and you can go up to 10 days in a row, with NO limitations on early duties whatsoever.
And sign in is usually at around 0445 LT... Imagine the shape you're in at your 7th day.:hmm: |
Yikes! :ooh: I worked for a charter before BA and they had retained the CAA's rule (max 3 in a row or 4 in 7 days). Seems like I was being spoilt there compared to several others then!
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FlyA380 - 10 days in the row not in the UK
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Then my move from Europe to the UK is definitely for the better!:E
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Von,
Just a small point (yup you will still feel nasty..) but I read FCO 1113 as meaning you can do a max of 6 duties, of which 5 can be early starts. You can't do six earlies in a row. |
To get the whole picture in CAP371 you also need to read para 7.2.1.....
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7.7.2.1 However, crew members who are employed on a 'regular'
early morning duty for a maximum of 5 consecutive duties shall work to the following: etc The definition of 'regular' is 'three consecutive weeks or more' as defined in paragraph 5.3 of NTAOCH 6/94 |
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