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Old 15th Dec 2022, 11:33
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I just did my interview on the 14th December and no one really mentioned when to expect a result. So just wondering if you know how long it took yours or anyones to get a reply in terms of days.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 13:31
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Someone last week,Sim Wednesday,phone call Thursday morning,course March.
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 21:25
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Originally Posted by CaptainCroft
I just did my interview on the 14th December and no one really mentioned when to expect a result. So just wondering if you know how long it took yours or anyones to get a reply in terms of days.
Hi! Can you please share a light on the assessment process? Type of questions? ETC. Many thanks!
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Old 15th Dec 2022, 22:22
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Does anyone know of any LH offers or is it all 320?
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 00:19
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Does anyone know of any LH offers or is it all 320?
From colleagues who have went recently they were told 320. All had thousands of hours Boeing experience for what it’s worth.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 12:44
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Assessors are going around looking at LinkedIn profiles. Make sure yours is squeaky clean
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Old 22nd Dec 2022, 13:39
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Has anyone who had an interview last week, heard anything back yet?
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Old 22nd Dec 2022, 17:34
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Interview 12th, sim invite email 16th. Sim dates available at the time 20 and 24 Dec but unable to attend on those days - no new dates seen since.

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Old 29th Dec 2022, 20:44
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Has anyone gone recently to the sim? Any feedback? Got mine next month 😅 Cheers
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Old 3rd Jan 2023, 11:24
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What’s the current pay scale and pension contributions for DEP please?
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Old 4th Jan 2023, 10:25
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Morning

Been meaning to ask since this thread opened. Direct Entry Pilot…..?

I am familiar with the term and have even been a Direct Entry Captain (DEC). Here the pilot joins as a Captain, leapfrogging all first officers already employed. However, Direct Entry Pilot? How else do you join?

I’m sure someone will tell me.

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Old 4th Jan 2023, 10:42
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Originally Posted by ItsonlyMeagain
Morning

Been meaning to ask since this thread opened. Direct Entry Pilot…..?

I am familiar with the term and have even been a Direct Entry Captain (DEC). Here the pilot joins as a Captain, leapfrogging all first officers already employed. However, Direct Entry Pilot? How else do you join?

I’m sure someone will tell me.

Me
Granted its a bit weird - I guess harks back to the days when new entrants would be via the cadet programme.

For what its worth - DECs don't leap frog anyone. They will always be junior to existing FOs in the company. They're simply filling LHS positions that no one currently in the company has bid for.
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Old 4th Jan 2023, 11:49
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BA has DECs, DEPs and TEPs - Direct Entry Captains (rarely hired at mainline, though), Direct Entry Pilots and Trainee Entry Pilots. It's just a phrase used to distinguish a pilot who is qualified and experienced (and so joins directly on the Co-Pilot pay scales) and a trainee who requires a full type rating and significantly more line training, joining on the cadet pilot scales.
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Old 4th Jan 2023, 12:10
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Originally Posted by eagle21
Rumours of BA Cityflyer joining the BA mainline MSL to allow for a posible order of E195-E2s with over 134 seats (beyond scope agreement) and to address retention issues.
Does anyone else think that if this happens then BACF would have a perpetual recruitment problem?
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 06:04
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Originally Posted by Confusious
Does anyone else think that if this happens then BACF would have a perpetual recruitment problem?
The opposite?
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 07:02
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Possibility: New entrants will be directed to CitiFlyer or EuroFlyer before being allowed to bid to the dangled mainline carrot.
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 09:16
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Does anyone else think that if this happens then BACF would have a perpetual recruitment problem?
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The opposite?
I have a few friends there who are in the top half of the BACF seniority list and they have would bid straight into a long haul command. Training Captains and Management Pilots included. How would they be replaced?

Also, if I had sat it out in Mainline waiting for a long haul command then I would be a little peeved to get pushed back down the ladder.

BALPA will be piggy in the middle with this one.
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 09:19
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Originally Posted by bylgw
Possibility: New entrants will be directed to CitiFlyer or EuroFlyer before being allowed to bid to the dangled mainline carrot.
It would have to be a no assessment rise to the almighty Big Airways because most BACF pilots do not jump through the traditional hoops successfully and then join other operators.
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 10:33
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Originally Posted by Confusious
I have a few friends there who are in the top half of the BACF seniority list and they have would bid straight into a long haul command. Training Captains and Management Pilots included. How would they be replaced?

Also, if I had sat it out in Mainline waiting for a long haul command then I would be a little peeved to get pushed back down the ladder.

BALPA will be piggy in the middle with this one.
Date of joining =/= Seniority

What makes you think any CF pilot would leapfrog anyone? Given the previous unpalatable situation of the BMI joiners…
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Old 5th Jan 2023, 10:44
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Originally Posted by eagle21
Rumours of BA Cityflyer joining the BA mainline MSL to allow for a posible order of E195-E2s with over 134 seats (beyond scope agreement) and to address retention issues.
Originally Posted by kendrick47247
Date of joining =/= Seniority

What makes you think any CF pilot would leapfrog anyone? Given the previous unpalatable situation of the BMI joiners…
I didn't start the PPRuNe rumour, see above 'Cityflyer joining the BA mainline MSL'. None of my friends have heard about this rumour BTW, so it could be a bit of wishful thinking by eagle21. Anyway, if you'd given 20 to 30 years service flying in the BA livery before and including CityFlyer would you accept being tagged onto the bottom of the list just so that BA could scrap the Scope Agreement? I wouldn't and I'd expect BALPA to fight my corner as I would if I were one of the Mainline pilots on the brink of a long haul command. CityFlyer pilots hold the trump card should a battle commence.

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