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Old 16th Nov 2021, 09:54
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Can someone post T&Cs?

Do I have to wear a hat?
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 10:09
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I would expect it to be mainline as these are positions on the main BA seniority list.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 10:22
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Oh joy. Don't think I have the will or ability to go through the BA aptitudes anymore.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 10:43
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Year 1 Basic £73048
Flying Pay £30ph
Subsidence Hourly rate £2.50

The £105,000 quoted is based on 800hours plus I believe, but whether that’s achievable is questionable

The scheduling agreement is another story, and the main reason I would guess that very few, if any LHR pilots have applied for the positions.

Engagement freeze at Gatwick is 6yrs and all redundant pilots that return to a CPT/FO position at LGW will be senior to any DEC that is recruited. It will likely be a long wait for any transfer.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 11:40
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Have mainline ever recruited DECs? Will recruitment First Officers take part in this campaign?

Would 20 years for a Long Haul command be realistic?
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 12:23
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It is unsurprising they have immediately had to resort to DEC's. The offer will be unappealing to most currently employed pilots given the rostering/pay/freeze issues.

The more interesting question is whether they will get enough external applicants, given that you must now have the right to live and work in the UK on top of being a currently operating captain with A320 experience (does this mean you have to be currently operating the A320 as a captain? There is your example of ambiguity for when they ask you at selection - you're welcome). Oh and as skyrocket says, you get a 6 year freeze at Gatwick. I would suggest the group of people who meet all these requirements and can be enticed by the current offer will not be large. Smaller still once the recruitment process has taken its toll.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 13:03
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The revised pay after the initial rejection is now:
Year 1 Basic £81849
Flying Pay £20 B/H
Subsistence remains the same at £2.50 D/H
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 13:04
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Northern Monkey is spot on about the availability of A320 current skippers with the correct license and employment rights. I wonder if this is one reason for the ad not publishing minimum hour requirements? The more senior A320 guys with hours galore are unlikely to be unemployed right now.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 13:06
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Don't know if its an oversight by BA , but if you check the job requirements on the PDF when you enter the recruitment portal ,there is no mention of A320 experience being required .
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 13:17
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I doubt the recruitment team would look too favourably on candidates that don’t have it, based on the job description stating a requirement for A320 command experience and a current TR
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 14:01
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The pay packet of 20 years ago.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 14:07
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How bad is the rostering? The only 320 skippers I can imagine taking it would be from a certain pink airline wanting to be based close to home in Gatwick as conditions are probably similar but with better perks possibly from BA... Due to no slots I assume pink wont get the expansion they dream of there for a long time to come...
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 14:15
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How come there's no FO recruitment at the same time?
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 14:17
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All FO recruitment will come from the prp (redundant BA pilots)/ previous hold pool
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 14:32
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There’s still 249 of us patiently waiting..
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 16:44
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I'm not sure it's the tests that will deter ... so much as the low pay and LGW. All the locos on a full contract, pay far more than that for 800 hours, and offer nice rural provincial bases if you want them . And I see the seniority list is being vaunted as a "perk" - oh the irony, and another example of how seniority list suppresses pay.
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Old 16th Nov 2021, 21:33
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The reality of anyone joining for the supposed perk of the BA MSL has to fully understood. Yes technically you will be on the Master Seniority List however you will join with a six year engagement freeze at LGW, do NOT expect to move quickly at the end of that freeze as LGW has been historically difficult for BA to crew, pilots have very often been held back at the end of their freeze because the company physically couldn’t fill the seats with replacements. This problem will be even worse now given how unattractive BA have made the new LGW. Six years could very easily turn into something more resembling ten; a very long time to spend on what is a deeply unsatisfactory level of pay and with fatigue inducing rosters just for a carrot that will be visible but always taken just out of reach.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 08:24
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Where has the job advert gone? Its no longer listed.
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 10:29
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Put up in error before internal bids had been processed, and more importantly before any expressions of interest from redundant pilots, or hold pool candidates were obtained 🙄

This may change the requirement to few, or none
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Old 17th Nov 2021, 14:09
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The ad was shared by BA pilots (linked to recruitment) on LinkedIn. It gave the impression it was legit. Clearly not an admin error.
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