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UK bases conditions, all GROSS amounts:
CAPT:
-108£ per scheduled block hour
-250£ per annual leave day (28 A/L days per year)
-Allowance 4600£ per year
FO
-57£ per scheduled block hour
-150£ per annual leave day (28 A/L days per year)
-Allowance 3875£ per year
Pension contribution set at 3% company and 5% employee as per UK legislation.
No salary or scheduled block hour to be paid during initial training.
Allowance per scheduled block hour during line training.
Full rate from successful line check.
CAPT:
-108£ per scheduled block hour
-250£ per annual leave day (28 A/L days per year)
-Allowance 4600£ per year
FO
-57£ per scheduled block hour
-150£ per annual leave day (28 A/L days per year)
-Allowance 3875£ per year
Pension contribution set at 3% company and 5% employee as per UK legislation.
No salary or scheduled block hour to be paid during initial training.
Allowance per scheduled block hour during line training.
Full rate from successful line check.
Not knowing the details but I suppose comparing Lauda, the low cost + version of Ryanair, to a balpa sanctioned BA low cost based in LGW would be like comparing Ezy to Volotea on the continent.. an absolutely enormous difference in T&Cs.
Sad thing is the pilots signing up for Lauda believe it’s somehow a competitive package.. and yes it’s tough times etc but the hole that’s being dug here is gonna be so deep it’ll be impossible to get out of.
Sad thing is the pilots signing up for Lauda believe it’s somehow a competitive package.. and yes it’s tough times etc but the hole that’s being dug here is gonna be so deep it’ll be impossible to get out of.
Anyway you’re still comparing apples and oranges… and a whole other selection of fruits.. Lauda is the absolute bottom feeder with pay-pr-hour Uber driver-style contracts. A low-cost version of Ryanair(how absurd is that)
Ezy on the other hand is a unionised airline with top-contracts. Ezy is also represented by Balpa just like BA. Yes there’s a fight going on in Ezy to preserve T&Cs but without unions we’d be completely screwed already.
You might hate unions but it’s impossible to argue you’d be better off in an airline that has no representation. If the argument then is that command is faster in Lauda then I suggest having another look at the T&Cs you’d achieve when achieving that command..
Ezy on the other hand is a unionised airline with top-contracts. Ezy is also represented by Balpa just like BA. Yes there’s a fight going on in Ezy to preserve T&Cs but without unions we’d be completely screwed already.
You might hate unions but it’s impossible to argue you’d be better off in an airline that has no representation. If the argument then is that command is faster in Lauda then I suggest having another look at the T&Cs you’d achieve when achieving that command..
Yes Ryanair is with Balpa as far as I know. They are also with SNPL in France and Anpac in Italy. Ryanair changed their attitude towards unions in the countries they needed to. Other countries they’ve then created low-low cost subsidiaries on some of the worst conditions in the industry. This is where Buzz and Lauda come into the picture.
Again ALL reasonable contracts offered in Europe today have union backing. Yes the LGW BA contract is not great but it is still much much better than Lauda or Buzz and wasn’t it also an option to stay on fleet as a FO in LHR and wait for command? The guys I know that took command in BA had only just joined the company.
The companies you mention that have little to choose from are all unionised except for Wizz
Again ALL reasonable contracts offered in Europe today have union backing. Yes the LGW BA contract is not great but it is still much much better than Lauda or Buzz and wasn’t it also an option to stay on fleet as a FO in LHR and wait for command? The guys I know that took command in BA had only just joined the company.
The companies you mention that have little to choose from are all unionised except for Wizz
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Whilst I understand the sentiment regarding the T&Cs Lauda are undoubtedly offering; unfortunately it's just a sign of the times at the moment and I know given the chance myself or any of my other unemployed pilot mates would take any old flying job given the chance. If anything it'll be a way just to get back in the game and not left on the sidelines for too long until its too late. Then surely jump ship when the opportunity arises if the terms don't improve. Which I'm sure they will not.
In light of this, does anyone have any info regarding the sim assessment or the technical/HR interview they're currently running? I've got the call up for one in a few weeks. Cheers in advance
In light of this, does anyone have any info regarding the sim assessment or the technical/HR interview they're currently running? I've got the call up for one in a few weeks. Cheers in advance
We'll good luck.
Mates I know who have been for the interview, and succeeded, have turned Lauda down, all of them. With the interesting "offer" Everyone's situation is different financially, and most will leave ASAP once flying is back to more normality. They probably know that.
It is a day of interviews and SIM in Dublin, as far as I know. Nothing to onerous apparently.
Mates I know who have been for the interview, and succeeded, have turned Lauda down, all of them. With the interesting "offer" Everyone's situation is different financially, and most will leave ASAP once flying is back to more normality. They probably know that.
It is a day of interviews and SIM in Dublin, as far as I know. Nothing to onerous apparently.
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The recruitment guy needs to learn proper interview technique. He's a bit rude and borderline argumentative. Places too much emphasis on why you left your previous companies. Cuts you off mid sentence and does not give you the opportunity to respond properly. Sim check guy is very nice. Tech question is usually on one topic about systems. Sim is pretty straightforward. Take off, some kind of fault that requires you to come back for hand flown NPA, then go around, single engine failure during go around, come back and land for ILS.
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It’s funny ( well not so funny ) how the HR guys insist on the same old questions , in this sad times where thousand of pilots are without job .
” Why you want to join this airline ? “ Try to figure out , maybe because i’m jobless ?
” Why you want to join this airline ? “ Try to figure out , maybe because i’m jobless ?
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Whilst I can understand how you and many others feel, we also have to understand that the few airlines hiring have 1000s of experienced applicants to choose from and can therefore afford to be as picky as they wish when it comes to who they offer a job.
It’s a buyer’s market, and competition for some jobs will be very tough indeed.
It’s a buyer’s market, and competition for some jobs will be very tough indeed.
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Maybe it's because they're looking for people who feel at least somewhat positive about the job? Working with the "I'm here because I couldn't find any better and the bills just keep coming in" lot is not nice for anyone. As much as I understand that it's not the best offer anyone has seen, people's bitterness about having to accept it because there aren't many better options out there right now won't make it any better.