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Old 6th Sep 2021, 20:35
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plus you hear him refer multiple times that it’s orders from above that have him doing this… I’m sure he loved it too but we all know where the orders come from
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 06:56
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The morale of this story: Don’t join this banana-company.

And if you are jobless, well i can tell you there are still other good careers(jobs) out there.
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 06:58
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Guy on radio the other day says he left his job caring for old people where they were paying him £1,000 per month and is now with Amazon earning £4k a month. You will not see that salary even as a 5 year FO at Wizz or BA for that matter!
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Old 7th Sep 2021, 08:07
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I think we’ve reached the point where it’s no longer worth funding flying training to get a job paying so little as an FO, and even effecting capped at €100k gross now for captains as seasonal contracts become the norm. T&Cs are under massive and sustained attack by all operators - look at BA LGW lite. It’s too late for me to get out now, however, anyone investing significant sums into flying training would be much better advised to invest half into software/coding courses and earn more and not get stuck in an aluminium tube all day!
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Old 8th Sep 2021, 18:21
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Rumour is Wizz air pilot salary to be reinstated to pre COVID levels before the end of the year.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 07:36
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Really, I wonder if they are short of Flight Crew?
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 09:41
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True, pre-covid rates from 1st October. And yes, quite short, 300 pilots to be hired by the end of the year, about 100 internal upgrades also - as the pool of unemployed type rated captains is running out.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 11:19
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Well BarryMG thats very good news for us all. If Wizz are running low, then others will follow.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 11:59
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They had to reinstate the pay, as the majority of those passing the assessment gave them the middle finger when they received the contract.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 12:17
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Was that due to pay only? Or did the "take it or leave it" base arrangement also play a part? And does the rule that you cannot change bases in the first 2 years still apply?
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 14:04
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That 4K is before tax, you do your own taxes at Amazon but it's questionable as to whether anybody actually does it accurately, which makes sense considering the employer has a track record of astronomical tax evasion. So I would imagine anyone still at BA earns more than 4K gross, WZZ on the other hand you get what you deserve joining these clowns
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 16:03
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Even with prepandemic salary the problem is the poor roster and working conditions and bases.

also the confidence of the pilots community on one guy that said one day that there will be no redundancies and the day after he fired 300 pilots.

that could happen again. The contract in this company is toilet paper, they can do with you whatever they want and change the conditions unilaterally from one day to other without previous notice, or change your base or 1000 things more.

during the pandemic the treatment that remaining pilots has suffered it has been the worst with difference of any other low cost airline in Europe.

still ex WIZZ colleagues unemployed with families, kids, lifes...
WIZZ ruined their life’s without any reason.
and now they are doing massive assessments and not giving priority to ex WIZZ pilots?

this company is what it is... they are not gonna change and the fact that they reinstate the prepandemic salaries it doesn’t mean anything to me.
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 17:48
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Does anyone know if they have reinstated training pay for those who are doing the type rating and conversion training?
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Old 9th Sep 2021, 21:01
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A SFO in Italy can make 4k net in normal times.
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 00:05
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flying 110 hours with plenty of discrections maybe, sure not on average. And before the paycut.
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 06:04
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70hrs, no discretion, with paycut - €3700 net
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 07:27
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A JET2 SFO on Furlough makes more than that, it's not impressive.
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 08:34
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All the FOs I know in italy must be liars then, and the payslips I have seen, fake.
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 10:27
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Sounds like precovid on Confair as italian local contracts in the beginning were terrible with taxes...
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Old 10th Sep 2021, 14:12
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Too bad they pay taxes in switzerland as well, on international flights, even on the italian contract.
FO salary especially is miserable, ask any of them and they’ll tell you
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