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Old 18th Nov 2022, 12:09
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Originally Posted by maxpeck
What about BREXIT though, if you join as an experienced FO with a few thousand hours. Is it easier to stay in the UK after the upgrade?
I think what he’s saying is it’s highly likely you will stay in the UK but on upgrade you may have to move base within UK
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 07:28
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So there IS a transparent base transfer list in Ryanair now?
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 09:17
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Yes. Actually, it had been transparent for about six years, and worked fine, until the CC changed it to the favour of cadets, and much to the detriment of the DE minority. It's arguably less transparent now because you can think you're getting near the top, and then upgrading ex cadets add to the Captain transfer list above you.
Is this not the purpose of a seniority based system?Date of joining is what matters now, that's how its been explained to me.
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Old 19th Nov 2022, 09:45
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Not in the way Ryanair do it - it's probably illegal to have a negative correlation between experience and terms. In other airlines where new FOs and upgrading captains have higher average experience, the correlation is broadly positive (but it's still on legally dodgy ground to run beyond a five year plateau).
Fair enough. I just know I got jumped on the waiting list for my preferred base by people who applied for it months after me. It was explained to me that it's because those people had earlier doj's than me and FR (at least in the UK) now employ a seniority based system.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 12:32
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Pay

Does anyone know what the year 1 salary is ( all in ) for an FO direct entry experienced and how likely getting a Stansted base would be? Thanks.

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Old 6th Dec 2022, 12:41
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Originally Posted by maxed-out
Does anyone know what the year 1 salary is ( all in ) for an FO direct entry experienced
66k based on 850 hours

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and how likely getting a Stansted base would be? Thanks.
Very likely if you have the right to work and live in the UK. Currently struggling to crew UK bases, everyone maxed out on hours.
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 14:11
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Plikee thank you very much.

May I contact you via pm?
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Old 6th Dec 2022, 20:05
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Anybody knows when Ryanair could start calling DEC who have passed the assessment?
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Old 9th Dec 2022, 19:11
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NTR experienced FO

Anyone know the score with pay during type rating and line training, if any and will accommodation be covered for experienced FO recruits?
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Old 14th Dec 2022, 20:35
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Anyone know the score with pay during type rating and line training, if any and will accommodation be covered for experienced FO recruits?

pay is from Day 1 and an allowance paid for accommodation during the type rating. Bond is 3 years at 15k
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 18:25
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Pure curiosity - but when we state 'all in figures' with RYR what is actually being included? Is it basic salary + flight pay, or are there other additions?
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 20:29
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Originally Posted by clvf88
Pure curiosity - but when we state 'all in figures' with RYR what is actually being included? Is it basic salary + flight pay, or are there other additions?
STN based FO is 70k ALL IN meaning 850 block hours Plus Allowance, pension, annual leave included in that figure.
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Old 16th Dec 2022, 20:36
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Email address

Did anyone here make the info Webinar on Wednesday? The recruitment guys advised anyone who had applied, but not heard anything to email them with candidate ID number, but I didn’t catch the email address. Anyone know it please?

ToCatLady thanks for the reply above. Got the answer too on the webinar.
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Old 17th Dec 2022, 08:14
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Originally Posted by Burger81
Did anyone here make the info Webinar on Wednesday? The recruitment guys advised anyone who had applied, but not heard anything to email them with candidate ID number, but I didn’t catch the email address. Anyone know it please?

ToCatLady thanks for the reply above. Got the answer too on the webinar.
I would be interested too!
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Old 17th Dec 2022, 17:27
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I would be interested too!
#metoo

Was flying during the webinar so missed it
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Old 20th Dec 2022, 18:18
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Back to basics....

Hi guys, Long time listener, first time caller. Just after a tiny bit of advice which, as present, seems to be very hard to find. Keeping it short and sweet - UK Citizen, UK passport, about to embark on the dreaded ATPL chapter, BIG question, UK or EASA exams? Main aim is to move outside of the UK, but are there any jobs for people in my position? Ryanair offer some type of hope for me, but with the whole EU baloney, just leaves simpletons like me, very confused on which path to take. 'm a couple months off the ATPL Mod1. Any advice would be well received.... apart from the "do both Easa and UK exams". Cheers
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 06:25
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Originally Posted by ElCapitan45
Hi guys, Long time listener, first time caller. Just after a tiny bit of advice which, as present, seems to be very hard to find. Keeping it short and sweet - UK Citizen, UK passport, about to embark on the dreaded ATPL chapter, BIG question, UK or EASA exams? Main aim is to move outside of the UK, but are there any jobs for people in my position? Ryanair offer some type of hope for me, but with the whole EU baloney, just leaves simpletons like me, very confused on which path to take. 'm a couple months off the ATPL Mod1. Any advice would be well received.... apart from the "do both Easa and UK exams". Cheers
From what I can see and have heard in the webinar; to work for Ryanair UK currently you need a UK ATPL. You are then required to get EASA after you have started. From then on you will keep both licences updated. To work for other UK companies you need a UK ATPL.

To work for a company based in Europe or Ryanair in Europe you need EASA. The UK licence is useless here and nothing on the horizon to suggest that will change.

If your desire is to live in Europe the problem you have isn't so much the licence but the fact (due to Brexit,) you no longer have the right to live and work in Europe. Do you have a route to an EU passport? If so then get your EASAs done.

If you do the UK licence then you can apply for jobs in the UK if that is a reasonable second option for you. But its not really going to help you for working in Europe much more than any other licence that you may already have.

You can thank Brexit for this situation. (And the stubbornness Europe post Brexit.)
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 07:29
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Originally Posted by ElCapitan45
Hi guys, Long time listener, first time caller. Just after a tiny bit of advice which, as present, seems to be very hard to find. Keeping it short and sweet - UK Citizen, UK passport, about to embark on the dreaded ATPL chapter, BIG question, UK or EASA exams? Main aim is to move outside of the UK, but are there any jobs for people in my position? Ryanair offer some type of hope for me, but with the whole EU baloney, just leaves simpletons like me, very confused on which path to take. 'm a couple months off the ATPL Mod1. Any advice would be well received.... apart from the "do both Easa and UK exams". Cheers

you are best posting this question on the Ryanair thread under the Wannabee’s the forum as they’ll have the most experience. What I will say is don’t be fooled by the schools saying it’ll cost an extra 8-10,000 to do a dual rating. Total rubbish and they’re profiting from the confusion. Get one licence, and if you wish to convert to another do the process on your own.

I am still really struggling with trying to understand how Ryanair can operate non-G reg aircraft that are based in the U.K. with U.K. nationals but holding a Non-U.K. based license. I thought come January 2023 that can’t happen? Will Ryanair U.K. be forced to change a lot of their aircraft to G reg?
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 12:15
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Thanks for the replies. Just all seems very confusing and unclear. The outlook in the UK doesn't look prospering for UK passport pilots as jobs seem to be very limited with a high amount of candidates. Other than Europe, do you know of other regions that largely accept EASA cadets? Europe seems to be a very grey area with the whole loop hole Ryanair are using.

Cheers
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Old 21st Dec 2022, 20:31
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Originally Posted by ElCapitan45
Hi guys, Long time listener, first time caller. Just after a tiny bit of advice which, as present, seems to be very hard to find. Keeping it short and sweet - UK Citizen, UK passport, about to embark on the dreaded ATPL chapter, BIG question, UK or EASA exams? Main aim is to move outside of the UK, but are there any jobs for people in my position? Ryanair offer some type of hope for me, but with the whole EU baloney, just leaves simpletons like me, very confused on which path to take. 'm a couple months off the ATPL Mod1. Any advice would be well received.... apart from the "do both Easa and UK exams". Cheers
In all seriousness your best bet for EU employment is to focus on your Tinder Premium account and try and marry a European.The flying stuff can wait.

Sounds silly, but that is actually the answer.
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