Play. Pay peanuts, get…pilots.
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I suggest that you go and look at the salaries Wizz pay and swallow a big spoonful of reality.Post 1857 by Booze on the Wizz thread is particularly illuminating.
I suggest that you go and look at the salaries Wizz pay and swallow a big spoonful of reality.Post 1857 by Booze on the Wizz thread is particularly illuminating.
Just shown my 18 yr old daughter that photo. ‘Would you fly on an airline whose pilots were dressed like that?’
Answer: ‘absolutely bloody not!’
Nuff said.
Answer: ‘absolutely bloody not!’
Nuff said.
short flights long nights
Is this serious? I thought it was some kind of wind up!
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So, the salary is stated for a cabin crew at 521,000 ISK for 67 hours. NET. That's €3551... Or €53 per hour.
So are you saying a F/O would be on almost half the pay of cabin crew?
Which supermarket in Iceland pays more than €53 per hour?
So, the salary is stated for a cabin crew at 521,000 ISK for 67 hours. NET. That's €3551... Or €53 per hour.
So are you saying a F/O would be on almost half the pay of cabin crew?
Which supermarket in Iceland pays more than €53 per hour?
you’re comparing apples and oranges. Most supermarket workers will work more than 67 hours a month. Assuming 40 hrs a week 2000 euros/month is only 12.5 euros per hour. It’s not minimum wage but not is it excessive.
But as far as the uniform goes, so what ? If you’re out of work and someone offers you a job you’re unlikely to turn it down because of the colour of the jacket. And if you evacuate you’re more likely to be recognised by your high viz jacket, probably.
But as far as the uniform goes, so what ? If you’re out of work and someone offers you a job you’re unlikely to turn it down because of the colour of the jacket. And if you evacuate you’re more likely to be recognised by your high viz jacket, probably.
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Sorry for the wake-up call, but ISK 424k a month net for cabin crew is above what you'd get paid in a hospital, school and far more than you'd get at Hagkaup or Bonus. Remind me how much FI pays staff to read their staff update and briefing emails?
Play got investment because a lot of local investors believe Icelandair has real problems:
Opinions on the uniform are pretty split. I was on the inaugural, the red cabin crew works OK and they love the comfortable shoes. Not too sure about the pilots who looked a bit like a stripper gram.
I think Play's bigger problem is that virtually none of the IT works, from what I hear.....
Play got investment because a lot of local investors believe Icelandair has real problems:
- We are talking about an airline that this week had a 757 stolen, no really that's literally what's happened https://www.rfi.fr/pt/cabo-verde/202...a%C3%A7%C3%A3o and that's without the shareholding that the government has just seized.
- Icelandair pilots last year were to replace flight attendants who voted down a pay rise, during a time when FI had maybe 0-1 return sectors across the whole company per day https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9626041.html which is partly not untypical of union relations in Iceland,
- They've got a vast fleet investment issue, because of a mixture of geriatric 757 and 767s, plus 737-MAXs which don't have sufficient range for FI's network and have a market value way less than the financing costs https://airlinegeeks.com/2019/05/08/...-airbus-fleet/
Opinions on the uniform are pretty split. I was on the inaugural, the red cabin crew works OK and they love the comfortable shoes. Not too sure about the pilots who looked a bit like a stripper gram.
I think Play's bigger problem is that virtually none of the IT works, from what I hear.....
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20 years ago Netjets paid a small fortune to a uniform company, on the back of the advice from head of cabin services, for a new uniform.
It was camp as hell and gave captains 2 stripes, F/O's just one.
It was all made up and almost got to line.
Thank God someone saw sense at the 11th hour!
It was camp as hell and gave captains 2 stripes, F/O's just one.
It was all made up and almost got to line.
Thank God someone saw sense at the 11th hour!
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The pay you quoted from the prospectus is for a "Trainer/LC", probably a single person in the outfit. NCCM, I assume this means NEW CCM which all of them are at this point is 60% of that pay. 67 block hours is easily around 110 duty hours if not more. So your calculations are rather silly and do not reflect reality.
The pay you quoted from the prospectus is for a "Trainer/LC", probably a single person in the outfit. NCCM, I assume this means NEW CCM which all of them are at this point is 60% of that pay. 67 block hours is easily around 110 duty hours if not more. So your calculations are rather silly and do not reflect reality.
Also, it shifts the risk to the crewmember for all boarding, check-in, security, delays and taxi time. The supermarket worker most likely gets paid per hour and not only part of it. Like the crewmember in this case.
Should get an oversized gold necklace with the Run Dmc sneakers...
Should get an oversized gold necklace with the Run Dmc sneakers...
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Have to say - they do look (pilots) a little like they're about to do a rendition of the scene(s) from "The Full Monty"...."All right. Yeah, we may not be young...we may not be pretty, we may not be right good...but we're here...we're live, and for one (possibly more) pay packet only...we're going for the full monty". 
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It has to be a joke and even more those 2 guys playing as "Pilots" they sure are no real flight crews probably some managers or ground staff that thought it would be funny to play the part.
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As pilots we are all in desperate circumstances. I haven’t flown for 16 months.
One day things will recover. We will be back flying, and getting the salary we deserve. For now, the accountants rule, but it won’t always be that way.
One day things will recover. We will be back flying, and getting the salary we deserve. For now, the accountants rule, but it won’t always be that way.
This is absolutely disgraceful. Thank goodness that some of us were able to fly in the 70s through 2020s and then run away screaming.
What a shame for those who have to fight on.
What a shame for those who have to fight on.
This amateurish set up reminds me so much of when The Apprentice 2018 set up a task to launch a new airline.
The candidates decided to call it Jet Pop, and as the article says, “but I'm pretty sure that potential customers don't want to be reminded of explosions when they're booking a flight.”
They chose “Highway to Hell” as the soundtrack to advertise the airline and the female CC uniform comprised of a boob tube held up with one strap and a mini skirt. Just the sort of practical outfit you’d want to be wearing with either a load of boozed up pax or struggling to get everyone off in an emergency!
https://www.joe.co.uk/entertainment/...ntice-4-207610
The candidates decided to call it Jet Pop, and as the article says, “but I'm pretty sure that potential customers don't want to be reminded of explosions when they're booking a flight.”
They chose “Highway to Hell” as the soundtrack to advertise the airline and the female CC uniform comprised of a boob tube held up with one strap and a mini skirt. Just the sort of practical outfit you’d want to be wearing with either a load of boozed up pax or struggling to get everyone off in an emergency!
https://www.joe.co.uk/entertainment/...ntice-4-207610