IAG: BA restructuring may cost 12,000 jobs
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British Airways - A once Great Airline.
If this management imposition goes ahead, I will never fly with this airline ever again!
It would seem to me, it would be best that all BA Staff reject new BA Imposed new contracts until management is forced to renegotiate realistic terms and conditions to all staff. It is important that you all remain united or fail!
If this management imposition goes ahead, I will never fly with this airline ever again!
It would seem to me, it would be best that all BA Staff reject new BA Imposed new contracts until management is forced to renegotiate realistic terms and conditions to all staff. It is important that you all remain united or fail!
Its all about to get really ugly and it will, as ever, be every person for themselves - most contracts grabbed and signed before they hit the doormat if history is anything to go by...
(there will possibly be a few who for moral or other reasons refuse to sign, and their slot will be gratefully snapped up by some poor soul who was about to be made redundant)
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The Job cuts could be at least scaled back if the UK Transport and Aviation secretaries had got their act together and mapped a clear route forward
The travelling public still have no idea of any new airport procedures ,estimated new check in times ,on board changes to seating and arrival procedures.
Confidence in flying is probally at an all time low.
It's the travelling public that will keep pilots in seats - no one else
The travelling public still have no idea of any new airport procedures ,estimated new check in times ,on board changes to seating and arrival procedures.
Confidence in flying is probally at an all time low.
It's the travelling public that will keep pilots in seats - no one else
Here’s a radical idea which could also apply to a number of other industries.
1. Wake up and smell the coffee; the world is a different place for several years.
2. No redundancies.
3. Everybody takes a 30% pay cut. (It could be 40%, or 25%, that’s a guess, a starting figure).
4. Everybody’s working hours are cut by the same amount.
Result: everyone stays current and employed, (and well rested). As traffic increases so can working hours and pay levels.
1. Wake up and smell the coffee; the world is a different place for several years.
2. No redundancies.
3. Everybody takes a 30% pay cut. (It could be 40%, or 25%, that’s a guess, a starting figure).
4. Everybody’s working hours are cut by the same amount.
Result: everyone stays current and employed, (and well rested). As traffic increases so can working hours and pay levels.
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If you disagree with the outrageous, unethical changes that BA management are making with complete disregard for hard working, loyal employees then please consider signing this petition. It is now abundantly clear that BA/IAG have no concern at all to listen to either their unions or the government. Maybe, just maybe they will listen to their customers. Quite honestly I don't think BA will change its course of action on the fire & rehire plans unless their Customers take a stand.
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Here’s a radical idea which could also apply to a number of other industries.
1. Wake up and smell the coffee; the world is a different place for several years.
2. No redundancies.
3. Everybody takes a 30% pay cut. (It could be 40%, or 25%, that’s a guess, a starting figure).
4. Everybody’s working hours are cut by the same amount.
Result: everyone stays current and employed, (and well rested). As traffic increases so can working hours and pay levels.
1. Wake up and smell the coffee; the world is a different place for several years.
2. No redundancies.
3. Everybody takes a 30% pay cut. (It could be 40%, or 25%, that’s a guess, a starting figure).
4. Everybody’s working hours are cut by the same amount.
Result: everyone stays current and employed, (and well rested). As traffic increases so can working hours and pay levels.
But why have the unions not proposed this? - it would solve the redundancy issue and protect jobs and take away the issue over the changes in contract. Perhaps one reason is that it might not be seen as fair to some groups of employees?. If you are CC on a legacy contract and earning £60k then a 50% cut to a take home of £30k is no problem - however if you are CC on a Mixed Fleet contract then a 50% cut to your current £25k pay is only going to leave you with £12,500 pa.
But why have the unions not proposed this? - it would solve the redundancy issue and protect jobs and take away the issue over the changes in contract. Perhaps one reason is that it might not be seen as fair to some groups of employees?. If you are CC on a legacy contract and earning £60k then a 50% cut to a take home of £30k is no problem - however if you are CC on a Mixed Fleet contract then a 50% cut to your current £25k pay is only going to leave you with £12,500 pa.
Can anyone confirm/deny?
Nobox HR is recruiting A320 FO/Capt for an European client, to start ops in the UK and Spain during winter 2020.
Guess that those Gatwick slots should go to Vueling? Cynical move if it’s Vueling, doubt they will disclose who the client is...
Guess that those Gatwick slots should go to Vueling? Cynical move if it’s Vueling, doubt they will disclose who the client is...
Only half a speed-brake
Perhaps the management is not fighting yesterday's war, i.e. COVID but rather the future lean Wizzair, 25% trimmed Ryanair, and the KLM-AF + LH mainland behemoths. Targeting not this season's cash flow, but the business' crew cost above the shrinking market share.
Ceterum censeo, UK should have a bill to disallow access to the market for any airline that runs a self-employed, social contribution evading, pilot contract scheme. Give your beancounters the resources to feed you, 35% is not a small fraction.
(the cost-saving they achieve without proper employment). This time is as good as any, such a rule could easily be attached to whatever emerges at the end of this.
Raph737 Exactly that, target the competition against which Vuelig's has been created, and perhaps this dog-eat-dog within IAG would cease. As hated as they are, I¨ll take my bets AC and WW do not intend to piss of staff that is hard to replace.
Ceterum censeo, UK should have a bill to disallow access to the market for any airline that runs a self-employed, social contribution evading, pilot contract scheme. Give your beancounters the resources to feed you, 35% is not a small fraction.
(the cost-saving they achieve without proper employment). This time is as good as any, such a rule could easily be attached to whatever emerges at the end of this.
Raph737 Exactly that, target the competition against which Vuelig's has been created, and perhaps this dog-eat-dog within IAG would cease. As hated as they are, I¨ll take my bets AC and WW do not intend to piss of staff that is hard to replace.
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Blue Panorama recruiting
“A friend of mine applied via Nobox, apparently it’s for Gowair based in Madrid, no mention of a U.K. Airline/base despite it being advertised.
Seasonal contract November-April.”
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Here’s a radical idea which could also apply to a number of other industries.
1. Wake up and smell the coffee; the world is a different place for several years.
2. No redundancies.
3. Everybody takes a 30% pay cut. (It could be 40%, or 25%, that’s a guess, a starting figure).
4. Everybody’s working hours are cut by the same amount.
Result: everyone stays current and employed, (and well rested). As traffic increases so can working hours and pay levels.
1. Wake up and smell the coffee; the world is a different place for several years.
2. No redundancies.
3. Everybody takes a 30% pay cut. (It could be 40%, or 25%, that’s a guess, a starting figure).
4. Everybody’s working hours are cut by the same amount.
Result: everyone stays current and employed, (and well rested). As traffic increases so can working hours and pay levels.
BALPA are the only engaged union so CC unions not in place to drive through this an option.
There appears no appetite for this at all as a solution for pilots. Reason......it does not come close to satisfying BA management’s true objectives.....to rid them of PP24 and smash terms to the floor for ever.
I hope it's the later.
On LBC I’ve just heard they will be looking at the airline industry at 8pm tonight. WW will be on and they want people to phone in. Great opportunity to ask about their ethics with it going out live across the nation.
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Unite want to enter negotiations and require the ‘loaded gun’ 188 to be rescinded so that negotiations can take place. Whilst not paying any attention to consultations a company must show that it has entered meaningful consultations. Unite believe that engaging with BA at present will allow BA to demonstrate that meaningful consultations took place. This is why unite have not sat down with BA.
When questioned Walsh said that he really didn't expect redundancy notices to be going out on the 15th of June. He wouldn't elaborate.
