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IAG: BA restructuring may cost 12,000 jobs

Old 20th Aug 2020, 00:31
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Calling them mediocre is far too generous.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 11:44
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Solid info that the bottom 340 ish (less any 787/350 pilots) have just received their CR notice. A dark day for aviation.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 12:30
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You would be correct, we have. A very dark day.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 12:47
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Unfortunately they are both mediocre AND inexperienced which, just as in aviation, is a bad combination.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 13:37
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Solid info that the bottom 340 ish (less any 787/350 pilots) have just received their CR notice.
They would have been better taking VR rather than being strung along with the promise of VR/PT saving jobs. So questions need asking:

Did BALPA know before VR closed on those who'd end up with only a month's pay, that this amount of CR was almost certain to happen?
Did BALPA know before VR closed that those taking it could still join the PRP?
And, was CR 0 possible at the right price to BA but an unpalatable one to the BACC?

Best wishes to those affected.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 13:46
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I’m really not sure how much clearer JM could have been. Zero CR was never an option. Not sure what else he can say to convince people?

Thoughts are with everyone receiving the awful news today.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 13:52
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was CR 0 possible at the right price to BA but an unpalatable one to the BACC?
Iím really not sure how much clearer JM could have been. Zero CR was never an option. Not sure what else he can say to convince people?
Everything has a price in business.
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 15:13
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With regard to the gatwick pilots, does anyone know their future yet? Has the bid been forgotten or are they all swimming?
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Old 20th Aug 2020, 23:27
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What a balls up i'm hearing about.
People being called at home to be told they are being made redundant only to be called the next day to be told there's been an error we want you back.

Unbelievable!
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 06:19
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To clarify, Pilots?
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 06:37
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Given when the pilot CRs were announced relative to the timing of TURINs post I doubt it's pilots..

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Old 21st Aug 2020, 09:42
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What a ba***s up

Probably this lot ......

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/124599...rkers-strikes/

Or this lot ?

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel...-a9679336.html

...
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 10:20
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I was refering to the Licenced Engineers, Techs, Mechs and Maintenance workers who have been totally shafted over the last few days. LGW and LHR.

From what I'm hearing there is going to be very little left at LGW after this.
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 10:39
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Good luck TURIN, sounds like you all need it.

In other news it looks like the wheels have come off the BALPA BA company council overnight.
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 10:53
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Pray tell!
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 10:54
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Now is the time for all the unions to be on the same wavelength at BA, but as usual their not even in the same room.

Anybody even thinking of booking will think twice with the threat of strikes on the horizon.
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 11:00
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Industrial suicide

Industrial suicide by Unite.Good old Len, the ship is sinking so let’s blow a massive hole in the side. You’re right, who will book anything now. I know I won’t.

A real sh*t sandwich for most. Stuck between Unite on one side and Walsh the other.
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 12:06
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indeed it is a sh#t sandwich and all the proud creation of Mr Walsh (a CEO taking his golden handshake and not perturbed at the carnage he leaves behind, as it is for the chairman and his €4 million ‘VR’). This could have been handled very differently without kicking the wasps nest within industrial relations. The issue now is that the majority of BA staff having endured a highly emotional roller coaster, are being presented with contracts or proposals which are unaffordable and not worth having. For my part, the current proposal I have from BA will not be workable or affordable. I hope a compromise can be found or I shall be off with a constructive dismissal claim in hand. The majority of BA staff currently have nothing to gain by helping keep BA solvent, not even future payback. So when, if, 2019 levels of business and profitability return in 2023/2024 as indicated by Walsh, most staff will remain on covid crisis 2020 pay and conditions. Nothing to gain, nothing to lose.
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Old 21st Aug 2020, 12:52
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PC767.

You are correct in saying this has been a horrendous time for all of us within BA but it is a very real crisis, just driving round to TBA or TBC and seeing the sheer number of aircraft all buttoned up at both the engineering site and the south side is astounding.

You then claim current staff have nothing to gain from keeping BA solvent and finish your post by claiming there is nothing to lose... We have everything to lose, should, heaven forbid, BA go under we all lose our jobs itís as simple as that so the talk of strikes and removal of slots is just not what we need right now, We need to try and Create confidence in our customers, no customers means no jobs.

i am not defending the management their approach to this has been underhand and appalling but in my mind there will be a round 2 and UNiTE are asking us to shoot ourselves in the foot, they need to tone down their aggression before itís too late.

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Old 21st Aug 2020, 13:43
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I guess a critical temperature has been reached as Balpa has just spontaneously combusted.....- WTAF as the kids might ask....
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