Jet2 Hold Pool

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No word

Hi all, NTR FO applicant here...since June... and no word since Sept stating 'your application is still under consideration and you should hear from us within 3-4 weeks'.

Anyone else had similar?

TIA

[mesh]

Are you trying to say the pay rise is down to the union?

[Club World]

Are you union relationship so bad in Jet2?

Maybe BALPA have run it’s course as clearly a lot of Jet2 pilot do not want to join them for reason

[Twinstar2007]

In the time of covid they made pilots redundant just curious did they keep them on the furlough scheme?

Just be nice to know if you are looked after at a time of crisis such as covid provided of course the company were allowed access to the furlough money to pay the redundant pilots

[Flying Wild]

Originally Posted by Twinstar2007

In the time of covid they made pilots redundant just curious did they keep them on the furlough scheme?

Just be nice to know if you are looked after at a time of crisis such as covid provided of course the company were allowed access to the furlough money to pay the redundant pilots

The word on the street is that the knee jerk reaction by the bean counters was to chop ~400 pilots to save cash outflow. They were talked down but still required just over 100 redundancies which were pilots who had just joined and were under training or had recently completed their training. LIFO unfortunately.

[Flying Wild]

Originally Posted by mesh

Are you trying to say the pay rise is down to the union?

if you are in Jet2, then you’ll be well aware of the caveat to the pay letter and the fact that BALPA is yet to meet with the company for pay negotiations for the coming year.

[Twinstar2007]

Originally Posted by Flying Wild

The word on the street is that the knee jerk reaction by the bean counters was to chop ~400 pilots to save cash outflow. They were talked down but still required just over 100 redundancies which were pilots who had just joined and were under training or had recently completed their training. LIFO unfortunately.

By the sounds of it at least those sadly made redundant were payed the furlough money the entire time

[Oceanic815]

Originally Posted by Twinstar2007

By the sounds of it at least those sadly made redundant were payed the furlough money the entire time

I don’t think you understand the concept of furlough. It was money paid by the government to keep people employed. If you were made redundant, you were sadly no longer employed, therefore did not qualify for furlough payments. Those that were furloughed had their pay increased to 70% of normal basic by Jet2. Pretty good deal as far as I can see.

[Twinstar2007]

Originally Posted by Oceanic815

I don’t think you understand the concept of furlough. It was money paid by the government to keep people employed. If you were made redundant, you were sadly no longer employed, therefore did not qualify for furlough payments. Those that were furloughed had their pay increased to 70% of normal basic by Jet2. Pretty good deal as far as I can see.

I didn’t explain it well, what I meant was that companies like for example EasyJet and Norwegian at the time made pilots redundant but claimed the maximum for them up to £2500 minus tax so effectively despite no longer being with the company they were still kept on the books, my question is did Jet2 do that for the pilots they made redundant? After all Jet2 was financially more stable than other operators.

[Whitemonk Returns]

Originally Posted by Twinstar2007

I didn’t explain it well, what I meant was that companies like for example EasyJet and Norwegian at the time made pilots redundant but claimed the maximum for them up to £2500 minus tax so effectively despite no longer being with the company they were still kept on the books, my question is did Jet2 do that for the pilots they made redundant? After all Jet2 was financially more stable than other operators.

I'm not sure if English is your second language or you don't understand what being made redundant means. None of the pilots in the companies you have mentioned above did what you state, maybe they did something else but you could not be made redundant and claim the 2500, that was not the point of the scheme. The point of the scheme was to avoid mass redundancies, and I think its fair to say the scheme was a success across the board, now whether it was merely a distraction from the fact every Tory MP and their neighbour was robbing as much money from the country as possible is a separate conversation.

[ToCatLady]

Furlough and redundancy is a completely different thing here in the U.K. it’s not how it is in the USA.

they were either made redundant (no money and not officially employed) or they were furloughed (still on the books employed but were supplemented by the government). Not both.

hope that helps.

[flyboy146]

If anyone has passed their assessment recently could you drop me a PM? DEC 73. Ta.

[737 Jockey]

Assuming you’ve got an upcoming assessment (congrats), would you share roughly when you first applied? Thx.

[flyboy146]

Originally Posted by 737 Jockey

Assuming you’ve got an upcoming assessment (congrats), would you share roughly when you first applied? Thx.

earlier in 2022, already passed but no comms since.

[737 Jockey]

Ah, okay, congrats. I applied in June, but didn’t have my U.K. licence until recently, did you apply before or after me? Thx.

[Crewing Gimp]

Originally Posted by Flying Wild

if you are in Jet2, then you’ll be well aware of the caveat to the pay letter and the fact that BALPA is yet to meet with the company for pay negotiations for the coming year.

Meeson is always two steps ahead of BALPA, even in the Channex days. As long as he is the boss the membership will never be significant.

[mesh]

Originally Posted by Crewing Gimp

Meeson is always two steps ahead of BALPA, even in the Channex days. As long as he is the boss the membership will never be significant.

Absolutely, and it seems to work

[ToCatLady]

Originally Posted by login_fee

Hi all, NTR FO applicant here...since June... and no word since Sept stating 'your application is still under consideration and you should hear from us within 3-4 weeks'.

Anyone else had similar?

TIA

yup there seems to be many who are in the same boat as you and never heard after those 4 weeks. The majority I know of are non-airbus rated whereas the ones with an Airbus rating have been called forward.

Perhaps something to do with their changing requirements and the new order.

[excrab]

As far as it is possible to tell without insider knowledge of training, there is no shortage of promotable F/O’s for the B737 and many more who will meet the requirements next winter. So most DEC recruitment will probably be for type rated Airbus Captains. Doesn’t mean there will be no DEC for 737, but probably not many.

[airspeed75]

Had anyone non TR been called out of the hold pool recently?! I know guys who have passed assessment who seem to have been treading water for an awfully long time with no update! I hope they're not wasting people's time and doing assessments without the jobs for them.