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Old 31st Aug 2019, 20:46
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British Airways Internal Upgrades

Hi everyone,
Sorry if this is in the wrong section.
I was just wondering if you joined BA on the shorthaul fleet flying the a320 from another airline how long would it take for the to offer you or what is the process for selection onto the longhaul fleets at BA?

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Your first five years are “engagement frozen” meaning, while you can bid for any seat you like, you can only be moved at BA’s discretion, irrespective of your seniority. Once the five years is up, you can bid for any seat you like and you will get it if your seniority allows. Typically, you should be able to achieve RHS Longhaul at that point, where you will then take on a “type freeze” and will have to stay on that fleet for five “bid years” (which usually equates to about four calendar years).

Command bids work the same way. You can bid whenever you like but you need to have suitable flying hours and seniority. This entitles you to the course but you still have to pass it. Shorthaul commands generally need 8-10 years seniority (although it has been significantly more junior recently). Longhaul commands generally need 17-18 years seniority.

All the above obviously depends on vacancies on each fleet at the time.
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Long haul commands are currently requiring 19-20 years and I do not see that falling any time soon.
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Originally Posted by Tay Cough
Your first five years are “engagement frozen” meaning, while you can bid for any seat you like, you can only be moved at BA’s discretion, irrespective of your seniority. Once the five years is up, you can bid for any seat you like and you will get it if your seniority allows. Typically, you should be able to achieve RHS Longhaul at that point, where you will then take on a “type freeze” and will have to stay on that fleet for five “bid years” (which usually equates to about four calendar years).

Command bids work the same way. You can bid whenever you like but you need to have suitable flying hours and seniority. This entitles you to the course but you still have to pass it. Shorthaul commands generally need 8-10 years seniority (although it has been significantly more junior recently). Longhaul commands generally need 17-18 years seniority.

All the above obviously depends on vacancies on each fleet at the time.
Hi thanks for the reply that makes a lot of sense and is helpful.
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Originally Posted by Tay Cough
Your first five years are “engagement frozen” meaning, while you can bid for any seat you like, you can only be moved at BA’s discretion, irrespective of your seniority. Once the five years is up, you can bid for any seat you like and you will get it if your seniority allows. Typically, you should be able to achieve RHS Longhaul at that point, where you will then take on a “type freeze” and will have to stay on that fleet for five “bid years” (which usually equates to about four calendar years).

Command bids work the same way. You can bid whenever you like but you need to have suitable flying hours and seniority. This entitles you to the course but you still have to pass it. Shorthaul commands generally need 8-10 years seniority (although it has been significantly more junior recently). Longhaul commands generally need 17-18 years seniority.

All the above obviously depends on vacancies on each fleet at the time.
Hi Tay,
You wouldnt also happen to know what BA requirements are hours wise for shorthaul fleet? i see on their site its fairly low for cityflyer and there is info on pilotjobsnetwork that says 750 hours but wondering if there is also a sectors requirement as I do low hours high sectors so
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I believe it’s 500h or 100 sectors on a type that qualifies for ZFTT.
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LGW commands are currently 3001 hours... first bid in the company and people are getting an OK bid.
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