BA pilots vote to strike
I think it was a fairly shrewd move by BALPA.
It's still going to cost BA an absolute fortune, but all the pilot's will get paid.
It also puts the ball firmly in BA's court in terms of returning to negotiations. And BALPA give up nothing. Further strike dates can be announced as required.
It's still going to cost BA an absolute fortune, but all the pilot's will get paid.
It also puts the ball firmly in BA's court in terms of returning to negotiations. And BALPA give up nothing. Further strike dates can be announced as required.
And the only people that really need to know this are the BA/IAG Management. You can be sure they do.
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Pilots appear to be quite sensitive souls. Perhaps they know their job will be coming to an end in the near future with pilotless aircraft. However, you got to have a laugh at the reasons they use to justify their recent cave in on the strike. I suspect they are the only ones convinced.
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I wouldn’t waste your time trying to reason with that one Busdriver. Whoever they are, they have a clear agenda and a chip on both shoulders. You have to sympathise really, must be tough being so bitter about something they know so little about!
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shoulda worked harder at school! 🤪
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British Airlines have ample time to reinstate your flight, Captain.
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sudden twang: Yes, yes and yes. No proof of your allegation.
Buter: Perhaps you should look at the context of what and why I wrote what I did.
‘Overpaid bus drivers’ - apart from operating your aircraft within the limitations using SOPs, what is so special about BA pilots? Do you print out your own paperwork each time you report to work; do you have to set up the refuel panel for the fuelling; do you open and close cargo holds; do you empty and refill the potable water tank, or even know how to ‘drop’ a toilet and refill the fluid? Ever cleaned a cabin or assisted in doing so? Cabin/hold security search; load bags or secure cargo with nets? Do you even have to arrange your own transport to and from hotels? Of course you don’t. You simply fly the aircraft; hence, unlike many hard working pilots, you are overpaid glorified bus drivers.
Buter: Perhaps you should look at the context of what and why I wrote what I did.
‘Overpaid bus drivers’ - apart from operating your aircraft within the limitations using SOPs, what is so special about BA pilots? Do you print out your own paperwork each time you report to work; do you have to set up the refuel panel for the fuelling; do you open and close cargo holds; do you empty and refill the potable water tank, or even know how to ‘drop’ a toilet and refill the fluid? Ever cleaned a cabin or assisted in doing so? Cabin/hold security search; load bags or secure cargo with nets? Do you even have to arrange your own transport to and from hotels? Of course you don’t. You simply fly the aircraft; hence, unlike many hard working pilots, you are overpaid glorified bus drivers.
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‘Overpaid bus drivers’ - apart from operating your aircraft within the limitations using SOPs, what is so special about BA pilots? Do you print out your own paperwork each time you report to work; do you have to set up the refuel panel for the fuelling; do you open and close cargo holds; do you empty and refill the potable water tank, or even know how to ‘drop’ a toilet and refill the fluid? Ever cleaned a cabin or assisted in doing so? Cabin/hold security search; load bags or secure cargo with nets? Do you even have to arrange your own transport to and from hotels? Of course you don’t. You simply fly the aircraft; hence, unlike many hard working pilots, you are overpaid glorified bus drivers
Do you print out your own paperwork each time you report to work
do you have to set up the refuel panel for the fuelling
do you open and close cargo holds
do you empty and refill the potable water tank
or even know how to ‘drop’ a toilet and refill the fluid?
Ever cleaned a cabin or assisted in doing so
Cabin/hold security search
load bags or secure cargo with nets
Do you even have to arrange your own transport to and from hotels
You simply fly the aircraft; hence, unlike many hard working pilots, you are overpaid glorified bus drivers[
Just be careful throwing stones around pal. Many of us have gone down a very long and difficult road to reach a seat at the pointy end of a BA aeroplane with lots of experience gained in various areas of the industry enroute. If you really think someone working for 'One-Man-Band Airways' frantically printing off paperwork and ordering a taxi while donning their biohazard suit to empty the poo tank is what a modern pilot should be then I'd suggest you don't know what you're on about and should possibly get your head read.
In any case, if you think your laughable example of 'One-Man-Band Airways' entitles you to sit back and slag off a group of rightly disgruntled professional pilots then your much mistaken.
Don't feed the Daily Mail journo Troll folks. No current or former professional pilot would come out with such utter tosh.
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sudden twang: Yes, yes and yes. No proof of your allegation.
Buter: Perhaps you should look at the context of what and why I wrote what I did.
‘Overpaid bus drivers’ - apart from operating your aircraft within the limitations using SOPs, what is so special about BA pilots? Do you print out your own paperwork each time you report to work; do you have to set up the refuel panel for the fuelling; do you open and close cargo holds; do you empty and refill the potable water tank, or even know how to ‘drop’ a toilet and refill the fluid? Ever cleaned a cabin or assisted in doing so? Cabin/hold security search; load bags or secure cargo with nets? Do you even have to arrange your own transport to and from hotels? Of course you don’t. You simply fly the aircraft; hence, unlike many hard working pilots, you are overpaid glorified bus drivers.
Buter: Perhaps you should look at the context of what and why I wrote what I did.
‘Overpaid bus drivers’ - apart from operating your aircraft within the limitations using SOPs, what is so special about BA pilots? Do you print out your own paperwork each time you report to work; do you have to set up the refuel panel for the fuelling; do you open and close cargo holds; do you empty and refill the potable water tank, or even know how to ‘drop’ a toilet and refill the fluid? Ever cleaned a cabin or assisted in doing so? Cabin/hold security search; load bags or secure cargo with nets? Do you even have to arrange your own transport to and from hotels? Of course you don’t. You simply fly the aircraft; hence, unlike many hard working pilots, you are overpaid glorified bus drivers.
‘Overpaid bus drivers’ - apart from operating your aircraft within the limitations using SOPs, what is so special about BA pilots?
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Crash and Burn in Retirement!
Interesting to see some retired Captains with a impeccable record totally crash and burn on THE biggest safety issue of the day, namely Terms and Condition.
Pathetic!
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Pathetic!
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Captain??
Yes I was able to fulfill my dream, a command on a large aircraft. I wasn_t "ace of the base" just grateful I enjoyed my flying. Hopefully "Archive" will reflect.
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Yes.
Generally no but it has been known.
They're too high up and the cargo chaps would be rather annoyed.
wouldn't even know how to and again....it's too high up
thank god it's too high up. Why on earth would you be involved in dropping the toilets and playing with a biohazard before stepping back into the Flightdeck?
yep, when I was cabin crew myself many moons ago!
as above
yep, when I worked on the ramp at a regional airport for 8 months while scraping enough money together to do my IR.
Calling a taxi is extremely hard work....you're my hero. And it goes without saying you make sure you call yourself and don't ask reception or the concierge to call one for you just so you sleep well knowing you've done a good days work.
Simply flying the aircraft....theres nothing simple about getting an aeroplane from A-B and delivering hundreds of passengers and tonnes of cargo safely and efficiently to their destination. Now, either you're a troll and know absolutely nothing of flying OR you've got a rather large chip on both shoulders for reasons only you really understand.
Just be careful throwing stones around pal. Many of us have gone down a very long and difficult road to reach a seat at the pointy end of a BA aeroplane with lots of experience gained in various areas of the industry enroute. If you really think someone working for 'One-Man-Band Airways' frantically printing off paperwork and ordering a taxi while donning their biohazard suit to empty the poo tank is what a modern pilot should be then I'd suggest you don't know what you're on about and should possibly get your head read.
In any case, if you think your laughable example of 'One-Man-Band Airways' entitles you to sit back and slag off a group of rightly disgruntled professional pilots then your much mistaken.
Don't feed the Daily Mail journo Troll folks. No current or former professional pilot would come out with such utter tosh.
Generally no but it has been known.
They're too high up and the cargo chaps would be rather annoyed.
wouldn't even know how to and again....it's too high up
thank god it's too high up. Why on earth would you be involved in dropping the toilets and playing with a biohazard before stepping back into the Flightdeck?
yep, when I was cabin crew myself many moons ago!
as above
yep, when I worked on the ramp at a regional airport for 8 months while scraping enough money together to do my IR.
Calling a taxi is extremely hard work....you're my hero. And it goes without saying you make sure you call yourself and don't ask reception or the concierge to call one for you just so you sleep well knowing you've done a good days work.
Simply flying the aircraft....theres nothing simple about getting an aeroplane from A-B and delivering hundreds of passengers and tonnes of cargo safely and efficiently to their destination. Now, either you're a troll and know absolutely nothing of flying OR you've got a rather large chip on both shoulders for reasons only you really understand.
Just be careful throwing stones around pal. Many of us have gone down a very long and difficult road to reach a seat at the pointy end of a BA aeroplane with lots of experience gained in various areas of the industry enroute. If you really think someone working for 'One-Man-Band Airways' frantically printing off paperwork and ordering a taxi while donning their biohazard suit to empty the poo tank is what a modern pilot should be then I'd suggest you don't know what you're on about and should possibly get your head read.
In any case, if you think your laughable example of 'One-Man-Band Airways' entitles you to sit back and slag off a group of rightly disgruntled professional pilots then your much mistaken.
Don't feed the Daily Mail journo Troll folks. No current or former professional pilot would come out with such utter tosh.
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Not that I agree with either side, it is quite funny to see how easy it is to wind up pilots. This website is a troll's paradise.
Unless it's your management calling you (or implying that you are such) 'overpaid bus drivers', why do you care? Stop nibbling. Stop willy-waving.
Unless it's your management calling you (or implying that you are such) 'overpaid bus drivers', why do you care? Stop nibbling. Stop willy-waving.
Well said folks..I wonder if our friend is thinking of the lifetsyle and career path supposedly enjoyed by the Hamsters and doesn't realise that that gig has gone.
Most pilots at BA have done their fair share of cabin cleaning and the other "one man band" stuff in the civvie world and/or have "endured" the special brand of being overworked and multi tasked that goes with being in the military.
And as my esteemed colleague Buter and others point out out - 17K hours is a tidy amount but it isn't that impressive - A full timer in BA will be there and beyond in 20'ish working years...
Most pilots at BA have done their fair share of cabin cleaning and the other "one man band" stuff in the civvie world and/or have "endured" the special brand of being overworked and multi tasked that goes with being in the military.
And as my esteemed colleague Buter and others point out out - 17K hours is a tidy amount but it isn't that impressive - A full timer in BA will be there and beyond in 20'ish working years...
Originally Posted by Archive mole;10575365[left
BA are not too big to fail. Remember the Australian strikes? Probably before many of you were born.
Originally Posted by Archive mole;10575365[left
I do, I was there and discussed the issues with senior Australian Airlines management.
What those pilots were demanding was utterly absurd and not even their Qantas colleagues supported them.
What the BA pilots are asking for is just the opportunity to share in the success of a very profitable company, to which they have greatly contributed, a totally different scenario.
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Yea, yea. I’ve very happy in retirement with my very nice pension pot thank you. No one has yet said why BA pilots think they are so special that they need to demand the company fall to its knees and grant them their greedy wishes.
I am very pleased to see that management are going to take away strikes non contractual perks; that must eat many of you up and make travel to work more difficult and expensive.
BA are not too big to fail. Remember the Australian strikes? Probably before many of you were born.
Enjoy tearing apart the company you you work for; team players my a**.
I am very pleased to see that management are going to take away strikes non contractual perks; that must eat many of you up and make travel to work more difficult and expensive.
BA are not too big to fail. Remember the Australian strikes? Probably before many of you were born.
Enjoy tearing apart the company you you work for; team players my a**.
...you archive mole, besides being a troll, are the steamy smelly reason some operators are able to keep certain levels of the industry in the sewer, where you reside....
