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And the best long haul job is?

Old 20th Apr 2019, 18:38
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And the best long haul job is?

So the way I see it, things at most EU legacies are heading in the wrong direction, CX sounds toxic along with the crippling high cost of living in HK and we have all heard about the fatigue in the ME3. Flying the heavies in North America sounds rosy, but only reachable if you have the visa and 25+ years seniority.

So, is there any half decent long haul jobs out there, or maybe things aren't all that bad and I just need a PPRuNe detox?
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 18:58
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I guess LH/LH Cargo, Air France and KLM are up there...
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 19:07
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Originally Posted by GE115b View Post
So the way I see it, things at most EU legacies are heading in the wrong direction, CX sounds toxic along with the crippling high cost of living in HK and we have all heard about the fatigue in the ME3. Flying the heavies in North America sounds rosy, but only reachable if you have the visa and 25+ years seniority.

So, is there any half decent long haul jobs out there, or maybe things aren't all that bad and I just need a PPRuNe detox?
Most people need a detoxification after to much misery and bs on PPRuNe =D
There are longhaul jobs , Cargo if it suits you that are more manageable. And no, you do not need tons of experience to join them. But some obviously helps. like always.

Most jobs and places you go to can be good or bad .. and surprise surprise .... most of the time it is not up to the place... mostly up to what personality you got =)
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 19:11
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 19:11
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BA 787....
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Old 20th Apr 2019, 19:20
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VA 787 definitely, better than the airbus fleet anyway!!
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 07:42
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GE 115b, assuming from your 'name' you are on the 777...consider Ethiopian Airlines...as crazy as that may sound :-) But, 777 in ET is a mix of Long and medium haul, that lets your body clock reset enough to stay 'alive'. Roster 20on/10off. Desent salary, and relaxed work environment. And No- I'm not a recruiter nor a mgmt pilot. Just a normal line guy
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 07:55
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Originally Posted by GE115b View Post
So the way I see it, things at most EU legacies are heading in the wrong direction, CX sounds toxic along with the crippling high cost of living in HK and we have all heard about the fatigue in the ME3. Flying the heavies in North America sounds rosy, but only reachable if you have the visa and 25+ years seniority.

So, is there any half decent long haul jobs out there, or maybe things aren't all that bad and I just need a PPRuNe detox?
Get onto a Gulfstream G650ER, Global 7500 or even a Falcon 7X.. On the right account (with emphasism on "right") and youŽll do a long haul or two a month and stay "at location" for long enough to actually enjoy the different location in a different continent - wake up in the morning (ok, ok.... middle of the night..) and suck in the new air, take it easy, head to the beach, head to the coffee shop, go shop carpets or whatever - and best of all - not already start thinking about the next return flight.. If you really nail it, youŽll be on a rotational position and when the flight is over you go home and stay home for 2-4 weeks (depending on rotation type). As for the flying - maybe youŽll be doing the ususal suspect of New York, Paris, London, Boston, Hong Kong, Singapore etc.,but if youŽre lucky it will be with the occassional odd vacation trip to Maldives, Namibia, South Africa etc.. Anyways, life is not always easy. Good luck.
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 08:05
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Originally Posted by eckhard View Post
BA 787....
Even this fleet isn’t all roses. Several recent joiners have left for greener pastures, being unable to get a weekend off, other than leave.

...and next year the -10s arrive, with no crew rest facilities (for the CC), they’ll be hoovering up Middle East and East Coast routes - not very credit efficient - which means more days at work.

So, while it may presently be the LH fleet of choice (the effects of JSS are felt less keenly than on other fleets), this will change in the next year or so. Suits me, as more junior people will be able to come across, and I’ll get pushed further up the list - but for the junior trash, life is about to get a whole lot worse, whichever seat you’re in!
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 10:33
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Originally Posted by Klimax View Post
Get onto a Gulfstream G650ER, Global 7500 or even a Falcon 7X.. On the right account (with emphasism on "right") and youŽll do a long haul or two a month and stay "at location" for long enough to actually enjoy the different location in a different continent - wake up in the morning (ok, ok.... middle of the night..) and suck in the new air, take it easy, head to the beach, head to the coffee shop, go shop carpets or whatever - and best of all - not already start thinking about the next return flight.. If you really nail it, youŽll be on a rotational position and when the flight is over you go home and stay home for 2-4 weeks (depending on rotation type). As for the flying - maybe youŽll be doing the ususal suspect of New York, Paris, London, Boston, Hong Kong, Singapore etc.,but if youŽre lucky it will be with the occassional odd vacation trip to Maldives, Namibia, South Africa etc.. Anyways, life is not always easy. Good luck.
Klimax. I need that job!!!! Where can I apply? Feel free to PM me
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 17:03
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Originally Posted by SaulGoodman View Post


Klimax. I need that job!!!! Where can I apply? Feel free to PM me
I had that job for five years. BBJ with four weeks on/off, mixed SH and LH flying, sometimes in a major capital somewhere in the world, sometimes on a tropical beach, nice hotels, good pay, monthly per diem higher than many’s salary, sometimes a $2000 tip for a four hour flight yadayadayada. And then the plane sold and I was out in the cold...
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Old 21st Apr 2019, 19:22
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Some interesting comments here. In terms of long haul cargo, who are we actually referring too - Cargolux or Cargo Logic? LH sounds good, but I can’t speak german, anyhow lets see how they navigate the recent loses.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 10:13
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BA 380 looks pretty decent?
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 11:39
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BA 380 looks pretty decent?
very restricted destinations. Fine I suppose if golf in joberg is your ting!
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 11:50
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FedEx 777 or UPS 747, by a country mile and then some. Downside: You make your own food and coffee.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 18:10
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Aer Lingus longhaul not the worst.
Good destinations, good people and most importantly, Eastbound, you are in your bed before any of the other majors land.
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Old 22nd Apr 2019, 20:11
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Klm 777/787
on average 7/8/9 days blocks.
depends on your lifestyle.
Like; 3days trip-6days off(9days block) or if you like on route 5 days trip- 4days off(9days block)
bad ones are like jfk 3day trip- 2days off(5days block)
Most trips are 4/4.
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 12:58
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Originally Posted by Hank Moody View Post
Klm 777/787
on average 7/8/9 days blocks.
depends on your lifestyle.
Like; 3days trip-6days off(9days block) or if you like on route 5 days trip- 4days off(9days block)
bad ones are like jfk 3day trip- 2days off(5days block)
Most trips are 4/4.
Good luck trying to get in.
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Old 23rd Apr 2019, 19:10
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Anywhere you can be long enough, to get part time !
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Old 24th Apr 2019, 18:22
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AA 777 MIA base is quite nice, even though the DFW base has some better trips.
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