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Old 18th Feb 2020, 16:52
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Originally Posted by booze
Yes. Apparently they want to charge candidates for the assessment in the future. I guess that step has to be in place before the "bring-your-own-lube" assessments are about the start.
Really? Who told you that?
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 09:09
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Must be a real treat to work for those guys.
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 15:34
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Well you work for a bankrupt company that drains taxpayer's money so I suppose you really shouldn't have anything to say
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 18:33
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Originally Posted by safelife
Checked that one for you and got the info that interpersonal has put all recruitment for Condor on hold, except those already invited.
Reason given is they won't be recruiting for them in the future, as LOT is going to do that from Warszaw.
talked to interpersonal today. They are actively recruiting for condor again since this week. It WAS on hold because of the struggle condor's been in. So if you're fluent in German and hold a a320 tr, go ahead!
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Old 19th Feb 2020, 19:21
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Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737
Well you work for a bankrupt company that drains taxpayer's money so I suppose you really shouldn't have anything to say
I'm under the impression that BrianAir likes to demand subsidies from local, or regional, governments in order to fly to, or setup camp (base), at some destinations.

My (certainly wrong) impression goes as far as that Brian, under the excuse that they will be greatly improving the local economy by flying there, or being present there, will demand all sorts of tax rebates, and subsidies, in order to accept being present locally.

Again, it most be my wrongly impression, that they will only be at some locations if they able to get some sort of unfair advantage in order to undermine local competition.

Naturally any subsidies or tax rebates will have to be done under some sort of "creative" accounting, so as to avoid what happened in France in the past, in which a regional airport as asked by the court to demand a refund of the subsidies that they had provided to BrianAir.

Therefore, which is the company that milks more the system ? BrianAir or sonicbum's company (whoever that happens to be) ?

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Old 20th Feb 2020, 03:14
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I really don't want to defend BoeingLudo, but this time he's right.

There's a big difference between the two companies: Ryanair receives money thanks to commercial deals and it's highly profitable. Alitalia receives taxpayers money (300/400 millions € every 3 months) and loses tons of euros.

Even considering only the pure numbers AZ "milks" a lot more of FR.
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Old 20th Feb 2020, 07:43
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Consider the taxes and social contributions they have been avoiding to pay for years, and the number will still be far, but closer than you think
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Old 2nd Mar 2020, 22:28
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Full_blast

These values can't be gross.
Impossible.

I have seen the Laudamotion pdf and the numbers aren't the same, I'm sorry.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 08:00
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Sadly they are correct, I have seen the CBA...
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 13:19
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I won’t answer with words because I don’t want to be rude. Therefore enjoy the attachments.





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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 14:46
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Full_blast

That's a really old PDF
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 14:59
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How "cheap" you have to be to accept these terms & conditions - think about it !
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 19:00
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Out of curiosity, how much did your first flying job pay at year 2? The document above adds up to 4800 EUR/m gross with 35 days of annual leave.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 21:33
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Does the TRI allowance mean You get 200 quids gross extra (120 net or so?) per day flying 4 sectors with a 200 hours cadet ?
Hilarious.
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Old 3rd Mar 2020, 21:36
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In this contract there aren’t perdiem?
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Old 4th Mar 2020, 05:13
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Originally Posted by BoeingLudo737
That's a really old PDF
1- September 2019. So no, it’s not really old;
2- It seems you have more updated terms and conditions so please share them with us instead of keeping them for yourself;
3- There is no benefit in reading your words if you can’t support them with evidence.


Originally Posted by sonicbum
Does the TRI allowance mean You get 200 quids gross extra (120 net or so?) per day flying 4 sectors with a 200 hours cadet ?
Hilarious.
Nope. You get 200€ gross per instruction day given in the sim.
In Ryanair for flying 4 sectors with a 200h cadet there is a monthly LTC allowance which is around 1000€ gross/month. I have no knowledge of the monthly allowance for a line training captain in Laudamotion, but considering that everything in Laudamotion is worse than Ryanair, I think we can all make our conclusions

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Old 21st Mar 2020, 13:13
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what is the situation outside Austria after the grounding of Lauda?

in Austria Lauda has applied for "corona short-time work" but the union is blocking the application at the moment. (according a letter signed by all Lauda Pilots addressed to Austrian Politicians)
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Old 21st Mar 2020, 13:40
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NO.
The letter is neither signed (anonymous) nor by "all Lauda Pilots"... It may be fake as well.

Anonymous letter

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Old 21st Mar 2020, 14:57
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Probably written by management.....

Austrian government short-time-work subsidies require union and works council approval and Laudamotion insists (and is trying to prove in court) that their works council was elected contrary to statutory provisions and is therefore a legal non-entity. Having asked employees to elect several separate works councils (which is certainly illegal) doesn't help either.

Laudamotion management (a.k.a. MOL's puppets) would just need to acknowledge that their lawsuit against the works council is baseless, retract it and start talking to them to get an agreement.
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Old 27th Jun 2020, 09:38
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Can anyone shed some light on what's going on with the Vienna base now? Looks like it will continue to exist, providing wet lease capacity to Ryanair. Will that reverse the previously announced job losses at least to some extent?
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