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Old 12th Dec 2018, 17:44
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Scottish High Income Taxes

Just wanted to ensure that anyone coming to UK from Europe or elsewhere, given choice of UK bases, should be aware of the income taxes in Scotland. The government there have imposed income tax bands which have resulted in anyone earning over £26,000 per year paying more income tax than English residents. They have also imposed a tax bracket of 41% on all income over £43,431 whereas in England, from next year the equivalent bracket will not impose higher tax at 40% until reaching over £50,000. Keep in mind that there is also another taxed called National Insurance that has to be paid in addition to this income tax.
Also worth comparing the tax you pay when buying a home in England with the new Scottish LBTT as for larger homes you will be hammered here too. Maybe an English base may suit many and result in more money actually reaching your pocket.
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Dead on! Now you get a choice where you want to live. In a country that is happy to pay tax to pay for schools, police, healthcare, university education and infrastructure or live in a country that pays low taxes and doesn’t want people with funny accents coming in and taking jobs from people that don’t want to work or who are unqualified for the job in question because people are unwilling to pay for their education. Let us see where this diverging political approach gets us in 10 years.
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Having lived in both England and Scotland, I find the public services 10x better north of the border. You get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by 152wiseguy
Having lived in both England and Scotland, I find the public services 10x better north of the border. You get what you pay for.

No doubt and I agree, last year Scotland’s taxation income per person was £550 lower than the rest of the U.K. despite slightly higher rates, and per person spending was £2500 extra. “You pay for what you get”, absolutely but remind me who is paying?

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Well, UK contracts are pretty rubbish anyway, no matter if north of the border or not. Especially when taking into account the low sterling and the chance of it dropping even further. So in that way other things will probably be more important, like quality of living, closeness to family or other important stuff and ability to understand the locals (which is sometimes hard in Scotland).
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North of the wall we get free NHS prescriptions, free eye tests, a heavily subsidised bus and ferry service, and university fees are a fraction of what’s charged in England or Wales.

I live in a beautiful, low crime area with fantastic quality of life, mountains on my doorstep and a house I could never afford in the South East of England.

I think that’s worth paying a bit more income tax for.

(Shame about the weather though . . .)
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Originally Posted by G SXTY
North of the wall we get free NHS prescriptions, free eye tests, a heavily subsidised bus and ferry service, and university fees are a fraction of what’s charged in England or Wales.

I live in a beautiful, low crime area with fantastic quality of life, mountains on my doorstep and a house I could never afford in the South East of England.

I think that’s worth paying a bit more income tax for.

(Shame about the weather though . . .)
And all the Scottish students who can't get on free courses in Scotland because the Scottish Universities want English or overseas students because they pay fees. Free education in Scotland, only if you're very very lucky!
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If you are based in NCL or EDI on exactly the same pay, your 'take-home' at NCL will be higher because of the higher tax that you will pay being based in EDI.
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Earnings between £43,000 and £50,000 will be taxed at 53%. This is 41% income tax and 12% national insurance. A rate comparable with Scandinavian countries but with nothing like the services enjoyed in those countries.
This tax rate will deter people from choosing to come to what is now the highest taxed part of the UK. Understanding the Laffer Curve and the effects of these tax rates that may well reduce the overall tax take and result in less money for services. A dangerous fine line to tread.
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Scotland’s finances are run by an economic illiterate uni drop out who when asked had no knowledge of the laffer curve. The much vaunted free uni education is only available to a few and not if you are English. Mmm. Free prescriptions and bus passes do not replace the higher taxes. Understandably doctors, businessmen / women, lawyers and airline pilots will not come up to the economic basket case that is Scotland plus braveheart propaganda from the shortbread senate in Holyrood. In fairness, Scotland is a great place where the majority are decent people apart from the aforementioned William Wallace wannabees. I think the extra taxation will bite big time ultimately.
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The Welsh will be joining the "tax 'em til the pips squeak" brigade soon, having just elected a Corbynite leader of the ruling Welsh Labour party who have developed a near monopoly of power in the Welsh Assembly. Just in the same year that they get given tax varying powers. How convenient.

Quite simple, vote with your feet.

@ G SXTY worth a look at how that 'free' university education affects the Scottish working classes. Because it sure is helping the lairds kids.
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Oh and I forgot. As an aspirational professional as most airline pilots are when you buy a property in Scotland the ludicrous LBTT the Scottish tax on house purchases is considerably more than England. The bs about free prescriptions, eye tests, buses (really!) is more than offset by the significant amount of tax you will pay. The constant hectoring from the thin lipped krankie at the helm with threats of independence referendums virtually daily scares the sh1t out of business. Oh we do have the gayest parliament in the word if that floats your boat. Caveat emptor!
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Being a proud Welsh man and and having spent the weekend in Edinburgh last week, I can honestly say Edinburgh makes Cardiff look like a 3rd world city.
A fantastic place! You get what you pay for.
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Originally Posted by WindSheer
Being a proud Welsh man and and having spent the weekend in Edinburgh last week, I can honestly say Edinburgh makes Cardiff look like a 3rd world city.
A fantastic place! You get what you pay for.
Edinburgh is a fab city and was a fab city 30 years ago, years before the Scottish devolved, Cardiff was a dump 30 years ago and although it swam for the surface in the early 2000's, has sunk again. Mark Drakeford, no doubt, will accelerate that downward trajectory for Cardiff and the rest of Wales.
Key policies, cancellation of the M4 relief road for Newport and banning smoking in all outdoor public places.
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It's worth noting, that it's your home address, and not work address that makes the difference in regards to taxation in Scotland
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Scotland is a beautiful country that has fallen into the hands of small-minded nationalists who dream of dogs running around the streets wearing tartan coats and every cat having its own kilt. I am surprised the Scottish government is not trying to get big business to sponsor a new sporran for every squirrel, frankly. If you can bear to listen to her for more than 5 minutes, Nicola Sturgeon droning on and on and on about the evils of the injustices done to the Scottish people by the wicked English, could make a grown man cry. The ordinary Scottish non-political person is a delight, but there is more pleasure to be had in having your teeth drilled without anaesthetic than having to listen to a hard-left nationalist talking about how they want to spend the last drop of everyone else's money, particularly if they are English.
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Count of mb: very amusing post and I completely agree with you!
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Originally Posted by olster
Oh and I forgot. As an aspirational professional as most airline pilots are when you buy a property in Scotland the ludicrous LBTT the Scottish tax on house purchases is considerably more than England. The bs about free prescriptions, eye tests, buses (really!) is more than offset by the significant amount of tax you will pay. The constant hectoring from the thin lipped krankie at the helm with threats of independence referendums virtually daily scares the sh1t out of business. Oh we do have the gayest parliament in the word if that floats your boat. Caveat emptor!
Did you spend some time at EasyJet by any chance?

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Seasons greetings, Stan. I think you know the answer to that! I hope that you are well and have a merry one from your old homeland north of Hadrian’s wall.
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Originally Posted by Raski
I am an italian pilot based in GLA, working for an UK operator on a permanent contract.
FREA is working well.
I think taxes in Scotland are still much less compared to Italy, and in general Europe, especially considering what you get in terms of services (unless you live in Germany or scandiland).
My two cents.
Scandiland minus Norway that is

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