Captain’s expectations of a new FO.
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One of the most important things to try and remember about the Ops Manual, A,B,C or D, is that it is not necessary to commit large sections to memory, only to know, with a degree of certainty, where to find the answers to questions that may arise. Notwithstanding that you are expected to have a sound knowledge of the emergency checklists that require immediate actions, the 'boxed items' as some operators name them.
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Don’t be arrogant, don’t allow yourself to become lazy.
Everyday try to do something better than yesterday.
Accept and embrace you don’t know it all and never will.
when you get 1000 hrs read this again, when you get your third stripe read this again.
Remember you can have a great day out AND do it the right way.
When you have a tough day, look at the sun rise/set, the beautiful views. The fact you get to play with such a machine and forget about company politics and remember why you put so much effort into becoming a pilot in the first place.
Everyday try to do something better than yesterday.
Accept and embrace you don’t know it all and never will.
when you get 1000 hrs read this again, when you get your third stripe read this again.
Remember you can have a great day out AND do it the right way.
When you have a tough day, look at the sun rise/set, the beautiful views. The fact you get to play with such a machine and forget about company politics and remember why you put so much effort into becoming a pilot in the first place.
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Don hit the nail on the head - why on Earth do the newbies feel the need to start an Instagram feed. You are not the first, and not the last. We all had to train like you did. You enjoy your job - great. Don’t rub your friend’s nose in it, they might not be so lucky. You do not want your mates and colleagues to think you are a bell end. They will be talking about you, for all the wrong reasons!
Don hit the nail on the head - why on Earth do the newbies feel the need to start an Instagram feed. You are not the first, and not the last. We all had to train like you did. You enjoy your job - great. Don’t rub your friend’s nose in it, they might not be so lucky. You do not want your mates and colleagues to think you are a bell end. They will be talking about you, for all the wrong reasons!
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Don hit the nail on the head - why on Earth do the newbies feel the need to start an Instagram feed. You are not the first, and not the last. We all had to train like you did. You enjoy your job - great. Don’t rub your friend’s nose in it, they might not be so lucky. You do not want your mates and colleagues to think you are a bell end. They will be talking about you, for all the wrong reasons!
Don’t confuse good CRM with a p!ssing contest. One of the most irritating F/Os I flew with was so keen to impress me with how far ahead of the aeroplane he was, he would flip over the takeoff card and enter all the landing data before we passed 10000 feet in the climb on a three hour sector. He would be into that FMS to enter a visual circuit before he even knew what approach I intended. During taxy in he would set up the cockpit for the next crew or even the next morning after an overnight. Too bad if the schedule changed!
The old sailing ship masters had it easy. No one else could navigate, so the crew had to toe the line. There was little insubordination or challenging of decisions if the reward was the cat o’ nine tails. Very little mutiny, considering how harsh it was then. Probably because this usually resulted in being keel hauled or strung up from the yardarm.
If only CRM could somehow embrace this ethos....
The old sailing ship masters had it easy. No one else could navigate, so the crew had to toe the line. There was little insubordination or challenging of decisions if the reward was the cat o’ nine tails. Very little mutiny, considering how harsh it was then. Probably because this usually resulted in being keel hauled or strung up from the yardarm.
If only CRM could somehow embrace this ethos....
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Oh, and show up minimum 20 mins before report having pre-read the stuff for the day.
If the allotted time for checking the flight plans, briefing etc. is insufficient then we take our time, leave late and that's the company's problem. I don't expect the FOs to be there until they're rostered to be there.
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Well that’s a very specific case of poor crew transport/parking whereby you need to plan on a 20 minute delay. Different to regularly and intentionally turning up 20 minutes early which is completely unnecessary and may quite often impinge on minimum rest. It ain’t clever or particularly professional.
I do understand your need to label turning up on time as militant but it quite simply isn’t.
I bet you’re one of those people who also turns up early for a delayed report...
I do understand your need to label turning up on time as militant but it quite simply isn’t.
I bet you’re one of those people who also turns up early for a delayed report...
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I think that all the captain or the instructor is looking for, is a guy that, in spite of having concluded a purchase transaction with an ATO, a transaction not dissimilar from buying a burger from McDonalds, who is still able to get excited about the toy included in the happy meal and does not think it is his inalienable right to receive one
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Turning up habitually early is a no no. When I walk into a crew room and find my FO at the briefing table with all 4 OFPS printed out and sections of the NOTAMS/WX all highlighted for
me at report time I now know that the FO
is not compliant with the FTL scheme in a company where pilot fatigue is a major issue. Unfortunately said FO’s think this is how to get along in said airline due to the culture. No. Try to think for yourself. If there isn’t enough time provided we take the time required and to hell with the schedule. Turning up early covers over the problems.
me at report time I now know that the FO
is not compliant with the FTL scheme in a company where pilot fatigue is a major issue. Unfortunately said FO’s think this is how to get along in said airline due to the culture. No. Try to think for yourself. If there isn’t enough time provided we take the time required and to hell with the schedule. Turning up early covers over the problems.
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No I wouldn't compromise appropriate rest for the sake of being prompt, the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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I’ve never worked out how writing something on a forum equates to how well you do a job.
Nor or do I understand how asking a question equates to always being right.
Nor or do I understand how asking a question equates to always being right.
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Lot's of inflated opinion here.
Get used to it, my dear young FO! This is how it will be for the coming 4000 hours:
Captain A wants X, captain B says he's all about Y but does Z, captain C let's you do your thing, captain D will give you a bullocking for doing X and so on.
In the mean time you learn every day.
Get used to it, my dear young FO! This is how it will be for the coming 4000 hours:
Captain A wants X, captain B says he's all about Y but does Z, captain C let's you do your thing, captain D will give you a bullocking for doing X and so on.
In the mean time you learn every day.