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Eurowings (Germany)
I am thinking of applying to Eurowings - Are there any pilots here (Preferably MUC based) who I could talk to over DM about lifestyle, rosters and actual net pay? German taxes seem complicated to work out.
Thanks in advance.
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Well, the german bases are still looking for FOs as far as i know, with Eurowings Germany. However, expect to be on the right side for around 15 to 20 years. Or be fired in a year or two.
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usefull reply, thx!
pay is not that bad. Starting salary is 53.7k gross, exc flight pay. And yes, I am familiar with the german taxes. Its still twice as much as Im earning today
pay is not that bad. Starting salary is 53.7k gross, exc flight pay. And yes, I am familiar with the german taxes. Its still twice as much as Im earning today
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As I have spoken to e Lufthansa representative in Hamburg (at Interpersonal) and with a TRE during my screening, and both confirmed me that they are also looking for German base FOs.
But my main concert atm is my previous question, regarding rosters. Any info regarding a typical roster or a rough estimate would be much appreciated.
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Eurowings Germany is indeed requiring FOs at the moment. The only caveat is the German language requirement...
in Eurowings Europe there is no such requirement so, as of today those who speak no German they will go to EW EU.
for those doubting the numbers, well try it out for yourself. They are almost done with negotiations for a new contract and it seems there is going to be a whopping 500€ Net increase in the numbers mentioned above.
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in Eurowings Europe there is no such requirement so, as of today those who speak no German they will go to EW EU.
for those doubting the numbers, well try it out for yourself. They are almost done with negotiations for a new contract and it seems there is going to be a whopping 500€ Net increase in the numbers mentioned above.
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Happy for them, that way FOs will make the same money as a cabin crew, and the Captains almost FO money in any half decent company.
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Dirk, even though I'm totally with you when it comes to the very low salary, please stay with the facts. CC at Austrian and EW-EU are earning around 1530 Euro gross and there aren't many Airlines around who pay over 2k gross for FA's. BTW, Austrian, a so called Premium-Carrier, is paying their Pilots a very similar figure to those at EW..
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Dirk, even though I'm totally with you when it comes to the very low salary, please stay with the facts. CC at Austrian and EW-EU are earning around 1530 Euro gross and there aren't many Airlines around who pay over 2k gross for FA's. BTW, Austrian, a so called Premium-Carrier, is paying their Pilots a very similar figure to those at EW..
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Dirk, even though I'm totally with you when it comes to the very low salary, please stay with the facts. CC at Austrian and EW-EU are earning around 1530 Euro gross and there aren't many Airlines around who pay over 2k gross for FA's. BTW, Austrian, a so called Premium-Carrier, is paying their Pilots a very similar figure to those at EW..
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I was reading that statement as well, but I doubt its correct.
As I have spoken to e Lufthansa representative in Hamburg (at Interpersonal) and with a TRE during my screening, and both confirmed me that they are also looking for German base FOs.
But my main concert atm is my previous question, regarding rosters. Any info regarding a typical roster or a rough estimate would be much appreciated.
As I have spoken to e Lufthansa representative in Hamburg (at Interpersonal) and with a TRE during my screening, and both confirmed me that they are also looking for German base FOs.
But my main concert atm is my previous question, regarding rosters. Any info regarding a typical roster or a rough estimate would be much appreciated.
1-people that pass DLR
2-people with a German level B2
If you are participating to a selection run by Interpersonal then, do not kid yourself: you are going to be placed in Eurowings Europe with the following bases:
1-VIE
2-Salzburg
3-PMI
4-MUC (it is a big question if that base is still going to be assigned to EW EU since the crews -because of the double taxation agreement between germany and austria- are paying double taxes for the sector flown within germany)
The salary quoted for the first 3 bases on previous posts are correct:
Fo 2200/2500
cpt 3200/3500
You can talk to anyone from management and regardless of what they say, those are the numbers. Keep in mind that the Austrian management have some interesting human resources practices where -for whatever reasons and excuses - they seems to continue missing payments for sickness, holidays, sectors and some agreed bonuses. Regardless of what arbeitrech in Austria dictates. Union Vida representatives are quite inexperience guys and are putting very little pressure on the company.
Some people seems to be owned a lot of moneys - I have heard up 20k euro - so be careful in planning your living with the number quoted above, you might get less money after all.
There must be a reason why 2 TRIs plus Post Holder Training recently resign and some young captains too.
enjoy austria flying...
