Advice from JET 2 pilots please
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Chances of getting BFS base - not sure, but Jet2 have a habit of getting people to where they want to be ASAP.
How many years to Command - you need a minimum of 3000 hours (factorised). Dependent on your base this will take you another 2-4 years. You must also be capable of jumping through the necessary hoops, hoops that you are trained to jump through before you face them.
Interesting day out with the training department - I hope so, I always try to make it interesting
. Being one of the Trainers I would say no, but I’m biased, some people might think so, but it usually them that makes our lives interesting rather than the other way round, they like to blame us though.
How many years to Command - you need a minimum of 3000 hours (factorised). Dependent on your base this will take you another 2-4 years. You must also be capable of jumping through the necessary hoops, hoops that you are trained to jump through before you face them.
Interesting day out with the training department - I hope so, I always try to make it interesting
. Being one of the Trainers I would say no, but I’m biased, some people might think so, but it usually them that makes our lives interesting rather than the other way round, they like to blame us though.
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Is that 3000 hours at the company
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I’ve seen both sides of your particular coin and I can genuinely say I wouldn’t look back. The standards are generally a bit higher at Jet2 but if you actually do some reading, learn the stuff and have a positive attitude you can get on extremely well here. The training for myself has always been very positive, constructive and I’ve personally not had any issues. Hope that helps!
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A bit of thinking to do I think.
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757 is an option for new joiners in theory, but not the right option for you in my opinion.
By your comments you would join with less than 2000 factored hours - the money here is poor as an FO until you get your third stripe.
Flying less than 500 hours a year means you are at least 3 years away from even applying for command, at which point the 757 fleet will be at least 30% smaller, likely only 1 or 2 years left by then, with everyone who is already here ahead of you in the que for the LHS.
Not to mention the training department are not going to entertain running a full type rating course for a TR 737 FO when they can just put them on an OCC.
Direct entry captain is a different story, hold your nerve and you may get your fleet of choice.
Overall the company is in a good position and a good place to be.
By your comments you would join with less than 2000 factored hours - the money here is poor as an FO until you get your third stripe.
Flying less than 500 hours a year means you are at least 3 years away from even applying for command, at which point the 757 fleet will be at least 30% smaller, likely only 1 or 2 years left by then, with everyone who is already here ahead of you in the que for the LHS.
Not to mention the training department are not going to entertain running a full type rating course for a TR 737 FO when they can just put them on an OCC.
Direct entry captain is a different story, hold your nerve and you may get your fleet of choice.
Overall the company is in a good position and a good place to be.
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Ditto what Whitemonk has said.
The 757 is an option, however
1 - it is MAN base only, so your move to BFS wouldn’t be an option.
2 - you questioned about time to command, the B757 pilots generally do 3-400 hours per year max, therefore your time to command would be extended.
3 - why would you do a type rating to join a fleet that will be gone in a few years, and then have to do another type rating, we all know that doing type ratings is a pain in the butt.
In my opinion, forget your boyhood dream, it’s just another tin can doing 500mph at 30odd thousand feet, join and join the B737 fleet.
The 757 is an option, however
1 - it is MAN base only, so your move to BFS wouldn’t be an option.
2 - you questioned about time to command, the B757 pilots generally do 3-400 hours per year max, therefore your time to command would be extended.
3 - why would you do a type rating to join a fleet that will be gone in a few years, and then have to do another type rating, we all know that doing type ratings is a pain in the butt.
In my opinion, forget your boyhood dream, it’s just another tin can doing 500mph at 30odd thousand feet, join and join the B737 fleet.
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Johnny
Love Your observations on training provided.
And
I sure as **** hope you lot are better then the other!
Were 3 stripes is mandatory at 500hrs.
So now a poor Cpt have no clue anymore if Jr has 501 hr or 5001, charming.
Love Your observations on training provided.
And
I sure as **** hope you lot are better then the other!
Were 3 stripes is mandatory at 500hrs.
So now a poor Cpt have no clue anymore if Jr has 501 hr or 5001, charming.
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Johnny, do you know if you're still hiring DECs for Spanish bases?
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Ditto what Whitemonk has said.
The 757 is an option, however
1 - it is MAN base only, so your move to BFS wouldn’t be an option.
2 - you questioned about time to command, the B757 pilots generally do 3-400 hours per year max, therefore your time to command would be extended.
3 - why would you do a type rating to join a fleet that will be gone in a few years, and then have to do another type rating, we all know that doing type ratings is a pain in the butt.
In my opinion, forget your boyhood dream, it’s just another tin can doing 500mph at 30odd thousand feet, join and join the B737 fleet.
The 757 is an option, however
1 - it is MAN base only, so your move to BFS wouldn’t be an option.
2 - you questioned about time to command, the B757 pilots generally do 3-400 hours per year max, therefore your time to command would be extended.
3 - why would you do a type rating to join a fleet that will be gone in a few years, and then have to do another type rating, we all know that doing type ratings is a pain in the butt.
In my opinion, forget your boyhood dream, it’s just another tin can doing 500mph at 30odd thousand feet, join and join the B737 fleet.
Hence why I asked about the 757, as If I go to Jet2 I doubt I’ll ever fly anything else than a 738 in Europe wouldn’t mind trying something else in my career even for a 1/2 years .
Also, how does Command work at Jet2, is it back to Leeds for a bit? I’ll have just over 2000 hours by the time I got in, so pretty close to Command here but happy to delay it for a bit if it meant avoiding going tic Paphos Italy or somewhere else for an unknown amount of time.
I remember when I joined my company I thought I’d never contemplate Jet2, as it’s the same stuff essentially but just seems a bit nicer with better pay and free parking! And no four sectors from what I know.
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I appreciate why you want to move back to BFS and Jet2 sounds like a nice little number too.
However, few points worth thinking about!
Jet2 is a bucket and spade company. Most holiday companies don’t do too well during down turns and anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. I remember people at Jet2 were put on to 75% contracts and worse during the last recession. I would also say the outlying bases at Jet2 would be more ripe for the cull in such a scenario. Something worth thinking about.
If you are desperate to get back to BFS, why not look at EZY? Much more established at BFS and a much more secure company. It might cost you more to go to EZY, but I think it would pay off in the long run.
However, few points worth thinking about!
Jet2 is a bucket and spade company. Most holiday companies don’t do too well during down turns and anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. I remember people at Jet2 were put on to 75% contracts and worse during the last recession. I would also say the outlying bases at Jet2 would be more ripe for the cull in such a scenario. Something worth thinking about.
If you are desperate to get back to BFS, why not look at EZY? Much more established at BFS and a much more secure company. It might cost you more to go to EZY, but I think it would pay off in the long run.
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I remember people at Jet2 were put on to 75% contracts and worse during the last recession.
As for your analogy of bucket bucket and spade not working well during a downturn, can I remind you that we seem to have evolved and would respectfully suggest that all holiday companies and airlines suffer during downturns. Having said that the Dart Group has NEVER made a loss.
I agree that EZY is well established, but Jet2 have been operating out of BFS for 15 years now, so they are hardly a newbie.
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I appreciate why you want to move back to BFS and Jet2 sounds like a nice little number too.
However, few points worth thinking about!
Jet2 is a bucket and spade company. Most holiday companies don’t do too well during down turns and anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. I remember people at Jet2 were put on to 75% contracts and worse during the last recession. I would also say the outlying bases at Jet2 would be more ripe for the cull in such a scenario. Something worth thinking about.
If you are desperate to get back to BFS, why not look at EZY? Much more established at BFS and a much more secure company. It might cost you more to go to EZY, but I think it would pay off in the long run.
However, few points worth thinking about!
Jet2 is a bucket and spade company. Most holiday companies don’t do too well during down turns and anyone who thinks otherwise is in denial. I remember people at Jet2 were put on to 75% contracts and worse during the last recession. I would also say the outlying bases at Jet2 would be more ripe for the cull in such a scenario. Something worth thinking about.
If you are desperate to get back to BFS, why not look at EZY? Much more established at BFS and a much more secure company. It might cost you more to go to EZY, but I think it would pay off in the long run.
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Hi guys,
A few questions I have, as I am wanting to join Jet2 quit badly now, lol
If I join at Palma base as a FO, how long till I get a command assessment/ I become a captain if I already have the 3000factorized hours? (I will have them after 1 summer there).
I heard SFO in Palma is 2000 factorized hours, any idea what the pay is? I heard it goes from 61.000Euro to 81000€ but no one can confirm this.
Thanks
A few questions I have, as I am wanting to join Jet2 quit badly now, lol
If I join at Palma base as a FO, how long till I get a command assessment/ I become a captain if I already have the 3000factorized hours? (I will have them after 1 summer there).
I heard SFO in Palma is 2000 factorized hours, any idea what the pay is? I heard it goes from 61.000Euro to 81000€ but no one can confirm this.
Thanks
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Nice - but a very tax INefficient way of giving employees a stake in the company's success, especially for Captains (decimated down to about £3000 after tax and NI at the marginal 62%). It's a great pity there's only really easyJet who go in for a share save scheme afaiaa
