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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 16:46
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Agree with the security comments - sad little jobsworths enjoying the 30secs of being able to lord it over you. Truly pathetic.

UK security should all take a field trip to AMS, FRA, etc and witness the random button and swap technique that makes the security process a pleasant 2min formality.
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 18:29
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Worst airport in the UK. Hate it
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Old 22nd Apr 2018, 19:29
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UK security should all take a field trip to AMS, FRA, etc and witness the random button and swap technique that makes the security process a pleasant 2min formality.
Suspect MAN's security staff have their 'awayday' at STN and vice-versa!
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 10:51
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Said it before and I’ll say it again, I’m sure most of these staff security types failed the multiple choice traffic warden exam!!
Having been in MAN for two years and especially recently the hardest part of your day is getting to the crewroom, and the people on security seem to make it even harder, I wouldn’t mind if they were consistent with it that’s the infuriating part!
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 16:07
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The most infuriating thing about the whole sorry affair is that it doesn't need to be like this. LHR/LGW are pretty slick now (presumably they play by the same rules, if not, why not?) and like a previous poster said, passing through security in the USA of all places is a breeze!

No, it's uniquely a MAG culture problem in which this behaviour has been drilled into them from day 1. Treat everyone with contempt, even crew. This culture can also be extended to nearly anyone that works there, bus drivers, border agents. No-one seems to be happy. Couple that with inadequate staffing and overcrowding then everyone loses their rag quite quickly.

From the perspective of someone that must pass through this place many times a week this embarrassment compared to everywhere else is plain to see. Welcome to Manchester.

Glad I'm getting this off my chest, it's quite cathartic!
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 16:23
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Staff Far East is a joke but to be fair, if there were no road works it wouldn’t be so bad but there are and it is! The security is a farce, enough said!
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Old 23rd Apr 2018, 17:03
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What about bringing a frozen meal then? Don't be so silly, all frozen foods apparently now banned as from today as the security don't have time to asses whether they will be mostly solid or mostly liquid when thawed.
Not true.

I take frozen food through regularly. (i'm not flt crew by the way).


For a bit of balance. The security staff at MAN seem to be run through a culture of fear. Several staff have recently been sacked for missing items or letting them through. I know who they are and they were the most pleasant of the lot who used a touch of common sense and good humour. What is now left are a security staff frightened to miss a tiny sachet of mayo.

The management really need to sort themselves out as this is not working.
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 07:29
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Originally Posted by Council Van

Next time I go through security I am going to ask if they require me to comply completely with that instruction or if they would like to demonstrate a little common sense!
Mate, that form of protest has already been tried at BHX and didn't have happy results!
https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/new...security-28709
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Old 24th Apr 2018, 19:20
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Thumbs up

Originally Posted by Council Van
Bloody pilots, a bunch of terrorists who are going to use an Asda curry to blow an aircraft out of the sky!
Where's the LIKE button mods?!?!?!
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 13:34
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What pisses me off is that the airlines are the airport's customers, and we are their employee representatives.
Without airlines, there would be no airports, and ergo no jobs for security staff.
Tail wag dog...
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Old 25th Apr 2018, 17:33
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I suppose their's been a few 'head-in-hands' moments in the past where things have gone wrong. I remember a few news reports and TV programs about the airport's failings in the past, staff putting suspicious finds in their pockets; they even let a young lad through who managed to fly all the way to Italy.

Whatever the *real* stories were doesn't matter, it's what gets reported and sticks in people's heads that counts.

Perhaps there's a bit of closing of barn doors after the horses have bolted action going on, as a result, it has now become unbearable. So "Separate Trays Susan" and "Liquids out Linda" now must suspect everyone and make it obvious to the boss who's watching on the cameras!
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Old 27th Apr 2018, 11:18
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Following my refusal to enter one of the new capsule type body scanner recently, and I have to be factual and say, the following "polite and friendly" discussion that I had with the security supervisor on duty during my period behind the curtain I was fully enjoying the joys of being frisked, probed, and made to read and sign a clip boarded form, then turnover of security staff was cited as a major issue for the security teams.

Generally high turnover is caused by either/or singular or in any combination
- poor wages
- poor departmental management style
- poor contracts

One can only surmise if security operatives at MAN are affected by any of the above.

On another note if you are serious about MAN as a base, one of the most remarkable anecdotes available, and one that ought get you into the zone into how the airport is managed, is the one detailing the closing of the taxiway to the threshold of the nearest runway to the terminal, (for accuracy backtrack was available for the first 330m of the runway affected by this notamed taxiway closure).

This section of taxiway was closed for the height of summer last year and fenced off and unbelievably used as a carpark. Yes that's right read it again incredibly the entrance to the runway was closed and used as a carpark - this actually happened around the same time that crews were transferred to a carpark even further away than the previous staff carpark.

I won't even go into the absolute shambolic management of staff far east and the related roadwork saga that airport management appear have zero interest in. You do have to question the sanity of allocating possibly the trade group most linked to fatigue to the furthest carpark, the route to which for motorway network arrivees navigates through a quite outstanding bottleneck "24 hour traffic control system"

I strongly suspect that that it is safe to say the people making decisions on car parking do not have the benefit of the motorway to staff east section of road in their commute into and out of work.

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