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1) Virgin Atlantic
2) RHS
3) A330
4) Less than a year (November ex Mon)
5) 12
6) 5 I think
7) 40
8) around £73,000 and that’s with 750hrs limitation which I find amazing
9) pension is 15% , around $800 downroute pay , great staff Travel and other perks , crew actually have a good time and socialise
10) Including down route expenses it’s around £4500pm ,
I’m happy and lucky , night flights are pretty difficult but I always found them hard !
Happy with the Job security MUCH better than Monarch anyway 😂
2) RHS
3) A330
4) Less than a year (November ex Mon)
5) 12
6) 5 I think
7) 40
8) around £73,000 and that’s with 750hrs limitation which I find amazing
9) pension is 15% , around $800 downroute pay , great staff Travel and other perks , crew actually have a good time and socialise
10) Including down route expenses it’s around £4500pm ,
I’m happy and lucky , night flights are pretty difficult but I always found them hard !
Happy with the Job security MUCH better than Monarch anyway 😂
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And I am sure your colleagues at Hop, Joon, Transavia and Delta Conections all get paid less than you to do basically the same job. Still providing we all keep making money no need for panic just yet!!!
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I actually have to partially agree with you Enzo , thing I hate is that KLM/AF/Delta guys get paid quite a bit more !
Especially Delta , but what a great company Delta is !! Make a sh@t load of cash and give the employees large pay rises , unlike others which I’m sure you know about
Especially Delta , but what a great company Delta is !! Make a sh@t load of cash and give the employees large pay rises , unlike others which I’m sure you know about
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1) Nordic Carrier
2) F/O 3) B737
4) Second year
5) 173 (had a few days off due to parental leave)
6) 45 in full year. 3-7/month
7) 835
8) 3800€/month
9) 200-600€/month (per diem payments, whereof some are taxable and some not)
-Pension of about 4,5% of salary is payed on top of the basic state pension. (% increase with higher income.)
-Company pays for all expenses with license, medical, uniforms etc. lol & extra medical insurense on top of the state is payed for by the employer. However some taxes are to be payed for those benefits.
10) total gross income 2017 ~50k €
- Net income after taxes was around 35k
Kind of high taxes where I live but it comes with some perks like payed parental leave up to a certain income (where basically all pilots hits the cap), and good vacation laws.
2) F/O 3) B737
4) Second year
5) 173 (had a few days off due to parental leave)
6) 45 in full year. 3-7/month
7) 835
8) 3800€/month
9) 200-600€/month (per diem payments, whereof some are taxable and some not)
-Pension of about 4,5% of salary is payed on top of the basic state pension. (% increase with higher income.)
-Company pays for all expenses with license, medical, uniforms etc. lol & extra medical insurense on top of the state is payed for by the employer. However some taxes are to be payed for those benefits.
10) total gross income 2017 ~50k €
- Net income after taxes was around 35k
Kind of high taxes where I live but it comes with some perks like payed parental leave up to a certain income (where basically all pilots hits the cap), and good vacation laws.
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I actually have to partially agree with you Enzo , thing I hate is that KLM/AF/Delta guys get paid quite a bit more !
Especially Delta , but what a great company Delta is !! Make a sh@t load of cash and give the employees large pay rises , unlike others which I’m sure you know about
Especially Delta , but what a great company Delta is !! Make a sh@t load of cash and give the employees large pay rises , unlike others which I’m sure you know about
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Well I obviously no longer work at Monarch , perfectly happy with the way it has all worked out , loyal to Monarch until the end and now in Virgin . Admittedly I had applied to Virgin a number of times in the past !
I’m not trying to be smug etc...
you Enzo have a chip on your shoulder
I’m not trying to be smug etc...
you Enzo have a chip on your shoulder
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1) BACF
2) LHS
3) E190/170
4) 3yrs
5) LOTS
6) 10+ per month is normal
7) 700ish last year, more this year but high duty hrs
8) £74k basic + £6k duty = £80k
9) £2k London weighting + £3k avg. disruption (disruption £250 & day off = £500) + £1k bonus (whatever...)
10) £86k avg = £4500-4800 net avg.
A large gulf indeed from RYR/EZY et al... with increases in weekend & night flying, out of base operations and a probable future re-fleet, mgmt will not be able to hide behind the current excuses of aircraft size & productivity forever.
2) LHS
3) E190/170
4) 3yrs
5) LOTS
6) 10+ per month is normal
7) 700ish last year, more this year but high duty hrs
8) £74k basic + £6k duty = £80k
9) £2k London weighting + £3k avg. disruption (disruption £250 & day off = £500) + £1k bonus (whatever...)
10) £86k avg = £4500-4800 net avg.
A large gulf indeed from RYR/EZY et al... with increases in weekend & night flying, out of base operations and a probable future re-fleet, mgmt will not be able to hide behind the current excuses of aircraft size & productivity forever.
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Well I obviously no longer work at Monarch , perfectly happy with the way it has all worked out , loyal to Monarch until the end and now in Virgin . Admittedly I had applied to Virgin a number of times in the past !
I’m not trying to be smug etc...
you Enzo have a chip on your shoulder
I’m not trying to be smug etc...
you Enzo have a chip on your shoulder
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1) EK
2) LHS
3) 777
4) Lots
5) Approx 20 per month
6) 10+
7) 900 plus bunk time
8) £150,000 net (salary flight pay and housing)
9) Pension £15000
10) Tax free so £165000 including pension
2) LHS
3) 777
4) Lots
5) Approx 20 per month
6) 10+
7) 900 plus bunk time
8) £150,000 net (salary flight pay and housing)
9) Pension £15000
10) Tax free so £165000 including pension
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Just to give you guys a perspective of what happens in another part of the world.
1) Employer - GOL Linhas Aereas (Brazil)
2) FO
3) B737NG
4) 3 years of service
5) Usually between 10-13 days off a month.
6) Usually around 5-8 overnights a month.
7) 708h in 2017
8) Gross Income 2017: 160k BRL (around €40k)
9) Around €300-400 on per diem per month. Per diems are not taxed in Brazil.
Last year airline paid 0,5 salaries on profit share bonus. This year they're paying 0,65.
MyID travel available with tons of airlines.
10) 180k BRL (around 45k Euro)
1) Employer - GOL Linhas Aereas (Brazil)
2) FO
3) B737NG
4) 3 years of service
5) Usually between 10-13 days off a month.
6) Usually around 5-8 overnights a month.
7) 708h in 2017
8) Gross Income 2017: 160k BRL (around €40k)
9) Around €300-400 on per diem per month. Per diems are not taxed in Brazil.
Last year airline paid 0,5 salaries on profit share bonus. This year they're paying 0,65.
MyID travel available with tons of airlines.
10) 180k BRL (around 45k Euro)
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24000 euro a year, it is 2000euro a month, I hope it is after tax and they didn't ask you to pay your type rating ... And you did 899hours (there are really good at rostering ...)
I know we all need to start, but on a A320, knowing the airline (we all recognise) is working quit well, I don't understand why Europe pilot accept this stuff ...
I know we all need to start, but on a A320, knowing the airline (we all recognise) is working quit well, I don't understand why Europe pilot accept this stuff ...
Airlines which don't ask you to pay type rating... There aren't a lot.
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1) Alaska Airlines/ Virgin America
2) FO
3) A320
4) 2 yrs with the company
5) ~160 Days worked
6) ~ 110 overnights
7) 750 hrs
8) $76K USD
9) $15k USD (Profit sharing +Retirement)
10) $91K USD for 2017
2) FO
3) A320
4) 2 yrs with the company
5) ~160 Days worked
6) ~ 110 overnights
7) 750 hrs
8) $76K USD
9) $15k USD (Profit sharing +Retirement)
10) $91K USD for 2017
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1) Swiss
2) F/O
3) 777
4) 6 years
5) 130-160 maybe
6) 8-10 / month
7) looks like 600-700 p.a.
8) 105,000 CHF / year
9) 1000-1200 CHF per diem / month plus bonus and xmas money if we're lucky
10) ca. 120,000 CHF all in depending on bonus and per diems
2) F/O
3) 777
4) 6 years
5) 130-160 maybe
6) 8-10 / month
7) looks like 600-700 p.a.
8) 105,000 CHF / year
9) 1000-1200 CHF per diem / month plus bonus and xmas money if we're lucky
10) ca. 120,000 CHF all in depending on bonus and per diems
1) Airline employer: USA ULCC
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; A320
4) Years of Service with company: 5
5) How many days you worked: 15/month
6) How many overnights you had 11/month
7) How many hours you blocked 750/yr
8) Gross income: $195.000
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) retirement $20.000. Per diem $6.000 both untaxed
10) Total gross income. +/- $220.000
All based on flying guarantee (basic schedule), I can normally drop half my schedule or pickup another 30-50 hours of credit (depending on reserve availability) @$210/hr if I want to.
2) Seat : Left
3) Aircraft type; A320
4) Years of Service with company: 5
5) How many days you worked: 15/month
6) How many overnights you had 11/month
7) How many hours you blocked 750/yr
8) Gross income: $195.000
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) retirement $20.000. Per diem $6.000 both untaxed
10) Total gross income. +/- $220.000
All based on flying guarantee (basic schedule), I can normally drop half my schedule or pickup another 30-50 hours of credit (depending on reserve availability) @$210/hr if I want to.
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1) Airline employer: private owner
2) Seat : FO
3) Aircraft type; Challenger
4) Years of Service with company: 1
5) How many days you worked: 180 days
6) How many overnights you had: 180
7) How many hours you blocked : 350hrs
8) Gross income: $60000
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) : 8000
10) Total gross income : 68000$
2) Seat : FO
3) Aircraft type; Challenger
4) Years of Service with company: 1
5) How many days you worked: 180 days
6) How many overnights you had: 180
7) How many hours you blocked : 350hrs
8) Gross income: $60000
9) Extra Pay (DC, PS, etc.) : 8000
10) Total gross income : 68000$
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1) Air Macau
2) LHS
3) A320
4) 4 Years of service
5) 240
6) 4-6/month
7) 900
8) US$90k/year basic
9) 13th salary (by contract), 14th salary (discretionary), sector pay, duty pay, per diem, overtime, triple time on public holidays, housing allowance, laundry allowance, transport allowance, performance incentive.
10) US$200k before tax. Low tax regime gives US$190k after tax. Plus provident fund of 12.5% of basic salary on top, only payable in cash after every 4 years of service.
2) LHS
3) A320
4) 4 Years of service
5) 240
6) 4-6/month
7) 900
8) US$90k/year basic
9) 13th salary (by contract), 14th salary (discretionary), sector pay, duty pay, per diem, overtime, triple time on public holidays, housing allowance, laundry allowance, transport allowance, performance incentive.
10) US$200k before tax. Low tax regime gives US$190k after tax. Plus provident fund of 12.5% of basic salary on top, only payable in cash after every 4 years of service.