Norwegian Long Haul Roster

[EH574]

hi guys, does anyone know what a realistic take-home pay is for a relief cpt in FCO base?

[Papa_Golf]

Originally Posted by EH574

hi guys, does anyone know what a realistic take-home pay is for a relief cpt in FCO base?

I've been told a few months back that it's in the region of 6K€. It would be a tempting job if you could add a couple of grands on top of it.

[VinRouge]

Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator

That translates to £95k before tax annual salary according to my calcs. There was a guy here saying as a year 1 CPT he earned £128k.

As a 10 year widebody captain, my last year saw me earn 63K gbp including allowances and expenses.

Before you ask, military. Would have bitten their arm off for 95K gross working for a nice company going to nice places.

[ATC83]

OSM contracts

Hi All

We all know the Rishworth deal is not the best. But looking into the future, would anyone have any info on the OSM contract you move on to after the initial 3 years?

salary, days off, overtime, per diem, pension % contribution etc.

i heard it is better with OSM but have not seen any figures. Specifically looking at LGW base living in UK.

Thanks 👍

[av8sean]

You guys make me want to cry. In the US I can make $15k a month as a third year pilot with 10% retirement contribution. Work about 12 days per month. This is considered one of the lowest contracts. Pitiful.

[Daddy Fantastic]

Europe

Originally Posted by TangoAlphad

Yeah well Europe ain't America is it. We would all love American Legacy T's and C's but we compare and work with what we can realistically get in Europe.

Thats because you have such weak attitudes in Europe. You just dont fight back or walk away. You have thousands of youngsters buying type ratings and paying for 500 hours on type and you wonder why European aviation sucks that badly!!

[Speedbrakes Up]

Norwegian is not even realistic of Europe, you just have to look at other carriers to find that out.

[Tamass]

Anyone would be willing to share a recent cruise captain roster based out of BCN or FCO? I would love to see how much off do you actually have at base...is it any different in Gatwick or in amsterdam?
Thank you!

[lansen]

Originally Posted by av8sean

You guys make me want to cry. In the US I can make $15k a month as a third year pilot with 10% retirement contribution. Work about 12 days per month. This is considered one of the lowest contracts. Pitiful.

Why would anyone sitting on a U.S. legacy contract come to this thread on PPRuNe and brag about his or her contract? Apparently social life isn't included in the other 18-19 days each month. Guessing by your post here however, I'm guessing you are just a troll. Instead of BS-ing us rather tell us about you Micky D salary on the CRJ at Air Wisconsin/MESA/Republic Airways or likewise.
Embarrassing....

Originally Posted by Tamass

Anyone would be willing to share a recent cruise captain roster based out of BCN or FCO? I would love to see how much off do you actually have at base...is it any different in Gatwick or in amsterdam?
Thank you!

The usual roster contains three, sometimes four flights with two/three of them usually in a w-pattern and one/two standalone/s, two standbys (90 minutes callout), 12-15 days off 5-5/4-4-2/6-4/8-2/10 etc (10 days guaranteed and remaining RD rest on duty or RES reserve 24 hour notice callout standby) average 60-70 block. Gatwick is either the same as Barcelona or (if you are within NUK) only point to point starting and ending in LGW and you'll fly a lot more within NUK (75+bh). Forget AMS. The base is full and even if it opens up again for new guys, there are a ****load of dutch guys in the company with a better seniority than you just waiting for a spot in AMS. Hope that helps for a start.

[flareflyer]

Gents sorry for my ignorance......what is NUK???

[JW411]

Norwegian UK.

[flareflyer]

Thank you

[flareflyer]

I have been offered a position as dec 787 based in bcn.
Any chance to know roughly what is the monthly income after tax and roughly how many hours per month?

Thanks

Flare

[waffler]

Did you not ask these questions at your interview?

[Daddy Fantastic]

Answer the question

Originally Posted by waffler

Did you not ask these questions at your interview?

Just answer the question if you know the answer or shut up. Stop being such a doechbag!!

Why do we always have to have snarky snide comments on this site. If you want to help out help, if not just be quiet!!

[flareflyer]

Waffler i am sure it has to be a pleasure to fly with you.......

[Smooth Airperator]

Hi guys

What's the time to command right now for an FO joining with say 3000 hours?

- RCA?
- Captain?

Thanks

[Buter]

Originally Posted by av8sean

You guys make me want to cry. In the US I can make $15k a month as a third year pilot with 10% retirement contribution. Work about 12 days per month. This is considered one of the lowest contracts. Pitiful.

I can’t really disagree with you, dude, but for the sake of a reasoned debate, what do you mean by third year pilot?

A few months after flying school I was in the front of a well respected LoCo 737 and, with the grand total of 500 jet hours, was on my second medium jet type, flying for the flag carrier. So 3 years from my first flight, I was in a legacy airline - you’d have to work hard to convince me that is possible in the states (in fact, I know it’s not possible...).

Yeah, the pay scales here suck compared to the big guys in the US (and I certainly hope to improve on that soon), but I also suspect your 3rd year wages come considerably later in your flying career than year 3?

Happy to be proven wrong.

Cheers

Buter

edit - before y’all even start, no, I’ve never paid to fly or funded my own type rating.

[Smooth Airperator]

I just wanted to add here that if you join Norwegian as a US based pilot (employed by OSM) you do not pay any upfront training bond.

A pilot hired for the same job at a European base but employed by Global Crew pays a bond.

[lansen]

Originally Posted by Smooth Airperator

Hi guys

What's the time to command right now for an FO joining with say 3000 hours?

- RCA?
- Captain?

Thanks

RCA - 5000 TT, 2500 EFIS or 1500PIC (CS25) (Direct entry) or 5000TT, 2000CS25 (internal upgrade)
Captain - 6000 TT, 2000PIC narrow body/1000PIC widebody (internal upgrade) or 6000TT 2500PIC EFIS or 1000PIC widebody (direct entry)