Norwegian Long Haul Roster
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Your pension is certainly far superior to those in Rishworth/OSM.
Also please be aware that annual leave is first come first served, so sorry for those of you who are sat at 35,000ft when the leave bid opens at 0900Z.
Also please be aware that annual leave is first come first served, so sorry for those of you who are sat at 35,000ft when the leave bid opens at 0900Z.
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My pension was cut by a third in 2010, is now career average and doesn't cover 16K of my salary, as it's allowance,but we still pay tax on it. Like for like, a 6/8% scheme is pretty much worth what you will receive.
Whilst these days are much better for time off, we regularly used to lose 20+ days of our annual leave allowance (which we weren't paid for) due to operational requirement (i.e. not enough pilots) No guaranteed days off and 130+ flight hours in a month (not including taxi time) used to be common, as were 8-10 sector days.. one day off in ten too.
I know the grass isn't necessarily greener, I have been extremely lucky and have had some amazing times and proudly served, but looking at the Norwegian offer, it's hardly a barren desert.
Whilst these days are much better for time off, we regularly used to lose 20+ days of our annual leave allowance (which we weren't paid for) due to operational requirement (i.e. not enough pilots) No guaranteed days off and 130+ flight hours in a month (not including taxi time) used to be common, as were 8-10 sector days.. one day off in ten too.
I know the grass isn't necessarily greener, I have been extremely lucky and have had some amazing times and proudly served, but looking at the Norwegian offer, it's hardly a barren desert.
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TangoAlphad, I am happy to be corrected but it was last year when I had the conversation.
VinRouge, have a look at other long haul carriers for roster comparisons, it may give you an idea on how other airlines operate, and by other carriers I mean Europe long haul based carriers.
Pension wise, I heard 1% is what is on offer with Rishworth and 5% with OSM after 3 years.
VinRouge, have a look at other long haul carriers for roster comparisons, it may give you an idea on how other airlines operate, and by other carriers I mean Europe long haul based carriers.
Pension wise, I heard 1% is what is on offer with Rishworth and 5% with OSM after 3 years.
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The vacation system is like TangoAlphaD said a point based system, taking into account previously assigned (or not) vacations, seniority etc...
Norwegian is certainly not a barren desert nor is the best airline ever on the planet. Of course you will find airlines with better rosters or money but I challenge you to find an airline which offers this kind of career outlook on a wide body as Norwegian does. If you want stability and legacy airline rosters then by all means join a legacy airline or an established carrier like virgin but then don't moan when your 50 and still in the right seat with your upgrade nowhere near in sight.
You win some, you lose some.
That being said, I have averaged 12.5 full days at home each month (not necessarily OFF days) in the last 6 months and I commute (almost never on the same day as the outbound flight). Whether you consider that horrible or good is up to you. I'm certainly happy with my choice and very much enjoy the flying and the working environment.
Norwegian is certainly not a barren desert nor is the best airline ever on the planet. Of course you will find airlines with better rosters or money but I challenge you to find an airline which offers this kind of career outlook on a wide body as Norwegian does. If you want stability and legacy airline rosters then by all means join a legacy airline or an established carrier like virgin but then don't moan when your 50 and still in the right seat with your upgrade nowhere near in sight.
You win some, you lose some.
That being said, I have averaged 12.5 full days at home each month (not necessarily OFF days) in the last 6 months and I commute (almost never on the same day as the outbound flight). Whether you consider that horrible or good is up to you. I'm certainly happy with my choice and very much enjoy the flying and the working environment.
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Yes, the leave is not first come first served anymore. It’s better now.
The main thing to remember is ....there is no typical roster..... you can request the various patterns 442 or whatever but month to month the deadheading varies as does the flying.
Some months may have multiple positioning,,, start Gatwick go to USA, back to scandi, back to USA maybe finish Gatwick maybe some place else. Could be Paris or BCN.
3-4 trips a month, 10 days off, those are the Certainties .
The main thing to remember is ....there is no typical roster..... you can request the various patterns 442 or whatever but month to month the deadheading varies as does the flying.
Some months may have multiple positioning,,, start Gatwick go to USA, back to scandi, back to USA maybe finish Gatwick maybe some place else. Could be Paris or BCN.
3-4 trips a month, 10 days off, those are the Certainties .
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And a take home pay of £5500 to £6000 for UK tax payer ?
With my school fees running at £2500 per month , im not sure how Norwegian , in the a long term , will enable pilots to better their childrens future , run a decent sized family home , the Range Rover school run , and be a member of Royal Troon to boot .
Apologies, im living in the past , i know , the industry is what it is now . NLH is one of my options for my retirement job, but with all that positioning in economy, a DVT is a a more likely outcome ;(
With my school fees running at £2500 per month , im not sure how Norwegian , in the a long term , will enable pilots to better their childrens future , run a decent sized family home , the Range Rover school run , and be a member of Royal Troon to boot .
Apologies, im living in the past , i know , the industry is what it is now . NLH is one of my options for my retirement job, but with all that positioning in economy, a DVT is a a more likely outcome ;(
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Have to agree money wise the 738 deal is pretty good especially if you end up in LGW and want to work/earn good money. Since last June it’s been double day off payments which is just under £1400 for a skipper and there are plenty of them, there are lots of guys that sell 20 days a year, do the math and some of the guys on 80% are selling close to double that!!
Equally many are not interested and prefer there days off at home, but the choice is yours.
LGW is full on year round so these are not just peak summer months, especially if you have some of the restricted qualifications such as Funchal or NN Winter OPS or ETOPS for the long short haul operation to the US and that before LTC LTCC LCC TRI TRE, tick a few of the boxes and you’ll be between £120K - £160k+
Conversely want time in the sun and low living costs and loads of time with your family go for LPA/TFS put up with a few nights stops and you’ll only fly a couple of days a week.
Have to agree money wise the 738 deal is pretty good especially if you end up in LGW and want to work/earn good money. Since last June it’s been double day off payments which is just under £1400 for a skipper and there are plenty of them, there are lots of guys that sell 20 days a year, do the math and some of the guys on 80% are selling close to double that!!
Equally many are not interested and prefer there days off at home, but the choice is yours.
LGW is full on year round so these are not just peak summer months, especially if you have some of the restricted qualifications such as Funchal or NN Winter OPS or ETOPS for the long short haul operation to the US and that before LTC LTCC LCC TRI TRE, tick a few of the boxes and you’ll be between £120K - £160k+
Conversely want time in the sun and low living costs and loads of time with your family go for LPA/TFS put up with a few nights stops and you’ll only fly a couple of days a week.
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And a take home pay of £5500 to £6000 for UK tax payer ?
With my school fees running at £2500 per month , im not sure how Norwegian , in the a long term , will enable pilots to better their childrens future , run a decent sized family home , the Range Rover school run , and be a member of Royal Troon to boot .
Apologies, im living in the past , i know , the industry is what it is now . NLH is one of my options for my retirement job, but with all that positioning in economy, a DVT is a a more likely outcome ;(
With my school fees running at £2500 per month , im not sure how Norwegian , in the a long term , will enable pilots to better their childrens future , run a decent sized family home , the Range Rover school run , and be a member of Royal Troon to boot .
Apologies, im living in the past , i know , the industry is what it is now . NLH is one of my options for my retirement job, but with all that positioning in economy, a DVT is a a more likely outcome ;(
Well, you need to have left school to join......seriously a lot of the guys coming from the ME realise they won’t make the same money as they did there but you pay your money and take your choice. If the fees are £2.5 k a month for a school I’d suggest you’d have to take home £10k after tax to accommodate that and I’m not sure where that would be the case in Europe for DEC.
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Quite sad to see the standard of accommodations.. basically the same as a low-end US regional. I'm sure the Holiday Inn Oakland is lovely for a 2 day layover. And a Park Inn? That is deplorable. Hope they allow stealing extra booze from the galley to make up for the layover.
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Hi guys, Just a question.
I’m type rated FO on 73 and last January I applied for Relief Captain 787 and also for 737.
I did the online assessment and after that I received an email from NORWEGIAN Pilot recruitment Team Asking me to fill a form due to new recruitment procces. This mail was on last January 22nd. I send back the form and from that day I have no news from NORWEGIAN.
What can I expect? Do you think guys Should I write an email or just wait. What’s the next step? How fast is going the recruitment?
I’m type rated FO on 73 and last January I applied for Relief Captain 787 and also for 737.
I did the online assessment and after that I received an email from NORWEGIAN Pilot recruitment Team Asking me to fill a form due to new recruitment procces. This mail was on last January 22nd. I send back the form and from that day I have no news from NORWEGIAN.
What can I expect? Do you think guys Should I write an email or just wait. What’s the next step? How fast is going the recruitment?
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I haven't been there but I doubt any US based crews stay there. That place wouldn't even comply with the flight attendant contractual standards. If a 3 star motel/inn on the side of the freeway is acceptable to you after a long haul trip, then enjoy.
