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Being in the pool for LH I wonder if anyone could shed some advice / experience.
Currently flying for an outfit in Scandinavia, with an upgrade opportunity not so far away around the corner, and a newly born kid under the arm.
Terms and Conditions are good, but with some 4-6 day trips away from base on almost every sling making a total overnights each month around 10-15.
Currently no opportunity for a bidding system.
I know that being in Norwegian LH will probably cause the same amount of nights away, being based outside of Scandinavia (Initially,if given chance to bid for new CPH base sometime in future).
How does it work with the rating, if exercising the "bank guarantee" option, in case of the company goes bankrupt / restructures to that point that you loose your job?
The social system in Scandinavia in regards of parenthood is quite good, and offers you possibility of staying at home with minimal money loss, and gives an individual the right of part time work.
How does it work in the other LH bases, like Gatwick for example?
thanks
Currently flying for an outfit in Scandinavia, with an upgrade opportunity not so far away around the corner, and a newly born kid under the arm.
Terms and Conditions are good, but with some 4-6 day trips away from base on almost every sling making a total overnights each month around 10-15.
Currently no opportunity for a bidding system.
I know that being in Norwegian LH will probably cause the same amount of nights away, being based outside of Scandinavia (Initially,if given chance to bid for new CPH base sometime in future).
How does it work with the rating, if exercising the "bank guarantee" option, in case of the company goes bankrupt / restructures to that point that you loose your job?
The social system in Scandinavia in regards of parenthood is quite good, and offers you possibility of staying at home with minimal money loss, and gives an individual the right of part time work.
How does it work in the other LH bases, like Gatwick for example?
thanks
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Guys, only one coment.
i see a lot if critics about norwegian, but what is perfect in life?.
Vueling? Easyjet? Ryanair? Etihad? Qatar? Evaair?
There is nothing perfect in life.
You can live in dubai, u will make more money, but u will not have life, only 8 days off, completely tired and exaust, you have to force your family to move, live in desert, a country with full of rules and to go out you spend double, in the end of the day after 3 years you end depresive, missing the good moments of your life and you only saved 1000 or 2000 dollars maximum per month.
A lot of pilot from middle east are moving to norwegian, so please, before talk bad about norwegian, lead by example and tell me what is the right company. Because nothing is perfect, every company has good and bad things just go for the one who fit more to your needs.
i see a lot if critics about norwegian, but what is perfect in life?.
Vueling? Easyjet? Ryanair? Etihad? Qatar? Evaair?
There is nothing perfect in life.
You can live in dubai, u will make more money, but u will not have life, only 8 days off, completely tired and exaust, you have to force your family to move, live in desert, a country with full of rules and to go out you spend double, in the end of the day after 3 years you end depresive, missing the good moments of your life and you only saved 1000 or 2000 dollars maximum per month.
A lot of pilot from middle east are moving to norwegian, so please, before talk bad about norwegian, lead by example and tell me what is the right company. Because nothing is perfect, every company has good and bad things just go for the one who fit more to your needs.
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Its a pilot merry go round, fundamentally because its much of a muchness regards terms and conditions, lifestyles.
Many who work in the UK are happy to earn GBP 120000 for say J2 , but then pay GBP 46000 out of that a year income and N.I tax. Nasty.
I work out in the far east and tax is a flat 15%. On a salary of GBP300000 plus /year. Its a personal choice. I like not having to worry about the cost
my kids university fees or booking a five star resort with business class travel for all the family.
I looked at NLH for my post retirement, but the prospect of depositing Euro 30-40000 into their bank account (yep they still want this), in order to work for them seemed abhorrent.
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NUK is a vast improvement if you live in UK or near gatwick .
no longer do you fly W patterns through Europe , everything cones back through gatwick so back to back trips include rest days and thus extra time at home . Not so good for commuters of course .
no longer do you fly W patterns through Europe , everything cones back through gatwick so back to back trips include rest days and thus extra time at home . Not so good for commuters of course .
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Doesn't really say a lot about Norwegian being better, many pilots are leaving NLH to go to Virgin Atlantic, Jet2 and the like.
Its a pilot merry go round, fundamentally because its much of a muchness regards terms and conditions, lifestyles.
Many who work in the UK are happy to earn GBP 120000 for say J2 , but then pay GBP 46000 out of that a year income and N.I tax. Nasty.
I work out in the far east and tax is a flat 15%. On a salary of GBP300000 plus /year. Its a personal choice. I like not having to worry about the cost
my kids university fees or booking a five star resort with business class travel for all the family.
I looked at NLH for my post retirement, but the prospect of depositing Euro 30-40000 into their bank account (yep they still want this), in order to work for them seemed abhorrent.
Its a pilot merry go round, fundamentally because its much of a muchness regards terms and conditions, lifestyles.
Many who work in the UK are happy to earn GBP 120000 for say J2 , but then pay GBP 46000 out of that a year income and N.I tax. Nasty.
I work out in the far east and tax is a flat 15%. On a salary of GBP300000 plus /year. Its a personal choice. I like not having to worry about the cost
my kids university fees or booking a five star resort with business class travel for all the family.
I looked at NLH for my post retirement, but the prospect of depositing Euro 30-40000 into their bank account (yep they still want this), in order to work for them seemed abhorrent.
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Doesn't really say a lot about Norwegian being better, many pilots are leaving NLH to go to Virgin Atlantic, Jet2 and the like.
Its a pilot merry go round, fundamentally because its much of a muchness regards terms and conditions, lifestyles.
Many who work in the UK are happy to earn GBP 120000 for say J2 , but then pay GBP 46000 out of that a year income and N.I tax. Nasty.
I work out in the far east and tax is a flat 15%. On a salary of GBP300000 plus /year. Its a personal choice. I like not having to worry about the cost
my kids university fees or booking a five star resort with business class travel for all the family.
I looked at NLH for my post retirement, but the prospect of depositing Euro 30-40000 into their bank account (yep they still want this), in order to work for them seemed abhorrent.
Its a pilot merry go round, fundamentally because its much of a muchness regards terms and conditions, lifestyles.
Many who work in the UK are happy to earn GBP 120000 for say J2 , but then pay GBP 46000 out of that a year income and N.I tax. Nasty.
I work out in the far east and tax is a flat 15%. On a salary of GBP300000 plus /year. Its a personal choice. I like not having to worry about the cost
my kids university fees or booking a five star resort with business class travel for all the family.
I looked at NLH for my post retirement, but the prospect of depositing Euro 30-40000 into their bank account (yep they still want this), in order to work for them seemed abhorrent.
I'm not in NLH, but I know plenty of people who just gave a bank guarantee in the past and not 30-40K into any account? Besides from the information I have, it will soon be a 3 year bond like in so many other companies. It's incredible how much misinformation we have in circulation out there. Last time I was in the US I spoke to an american pilot who was convinced we had thai crew flying our aircraft! Fake news are alive and well...
With regards to people leaving NLH for virgin, Jet2 etc. Absolutely true. But just as many are leaving from Jet2 etc. to come to Norwegian. I even know people who have left and then come back again. Strange market at the moment. It seems like many are rotating jobs to get closer to home at the moment, since the salaries are just about the same in many non-legacy airlines.
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A lot of Pilots who commuted at other airlines have joined NUK thinking that the commuting will get easier on a LH roster. Problem is when you factor in commute and the dreaded S word (standby) the nice shinny 787 soon wears off and they look for the next better commuting offer.
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NUK is all about Gatwick , therefore the obvious thing is to get local pilots. But the bank guarantee for the bond is almost impossible with a UK bank. Therefore you have to find another way .
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Are we professionals, or has the stokholm syndrome taking its toll?
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It’s always been the same. But don’t think it’s unique to aviation , the number of unpaid “ interns “ in other fields is a massive issue and they are falling over each other to work for nothing.
these are not “ wannabes “ either, it’s not ab initio. There was a lot of people looking to escape Ryanair and this was a way out and into something less draconian
these are not “ wannabes “ either, it’s not ab initio. There was a lot of people looking to escape Ryanair and this was a way out and into something less draconian
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I recently joined and managed to get a loan quite easily despite a massive mortgage and some money on cards. I escaped from a shi**y airline that was well on its way to ruining my health.
It's a short term sacrifice guys. Not ideal but in the end we're talking about 3k worth of interest to get another valuable type on your license. 3k to make yourself more marketable and employable and in many cases still cheaper than some people's smoking and boozing habits.
Fast forward 3 years you have your money back. Let's not kid ourselves, the number of non TR jobs in Europe for FOs are limited. We're I want to live and be based it's only BA that even offers such a thing.
I get what works for some doesn't work for others but you have to respect that some people's choices are governed by what they view as long term gains.
All the best
It's a short term sacrifice guys. Not ideal but in the end we're talking about 3k worth of interest to get another valuable type on your license. 3k to make yourself more marketable and employable and in many cases still cheaper than some people's smoking and boozing habits.
Fast forward 3 years you have your money back. Let's not kid ourselves, the number of non TR jobs in Europe for FOs are limited. We're I want to live and be based it's only BA that even offers such a thing.
I get what works for some doesn't work for others but you have to respect that some people's choices are governed by what they view as long term gains.
All the best
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