Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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Cabincrew is not happy as well...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cons...34310?mode=amp
I think it would be far more interesting to hear what is the average or median salary instead of the response there in the end of the article where Ryanair is saying they earn up to 40k. So it could be anything from 0 to 40k...
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/cons...34310?mode=amp
I think it would be far more interesting to hear what is the average or median salary instead of the response there in the end of the article where Ryanair is saying they earn up to 40k. So it could be anything from 0 to 40k...
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Hello gents. I have an assessement in 2 weeks as a DEC. Can someone please send me a personal mail what to expect if you been there recently. I would appreciate alot. Thanks!
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dd - that is not legally possible as there is no union representation at RYR, by design. But the 
who made that post showed complete contempt of his potential future colleagues and those posting on this thread.
But picking up on one of RAT's previous posts - You do have to wonder why RYR's staff leave. Any company that heamorages experienced, valuable staff should really be worrying about how they are managing their operation. It shows their current regime has little value for their staff. If it suits them, they stay, if not they go. I'll suggest the same applies to their passengers and suppliers. The entire operation is little more than a giant favelka built on sand with no investment in its foundation. Only so long as it can generate cash today it has a value and recent events show it has no resilience, a requirement for genuine long term value as well as existence.
who made that post showed complete contempt of his potential future colleagues and those posting on this thread.But picking up on one of RAT's previous posts - You do have to wonder why RYR's staff leave. Any company that heamorages experienced, valuable staff should really be worrying about how they are managing their operation. It shows their current regime has little value for their staff. If it suits them, they stay, if not they go. I'll suggest the same applies to their passengers and suppliers. The entire operation is little more than a giant favelka built on sand with no investment in its foundation. Only so long as it can generate cash today it has a value and recent events show it has no resilience, a requirement for genuine long term value as well as existence.
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His potential future colleagues who have done the exact same thing in the past you mean? You cannot expect sympathy there mate. They have done the exact same thing and used RYR to shortcut their careers. They happily accepted the T&Cs.
Having said that, if they really want to change their working conditions. NOW is the time to act and you have my full support! (For whatever that is worth.) An increase in T&C's in one of Europe's biggest aviation "employer" is good for the whole industry.
And also thumbs up for the cabin crewmembers who are stepping up. Compared to how they are treated the pilots are treated like little princesitas.
IALPA should in my view come out with a statement as RYR is the biggest AOC holder in Ireland. The only association who as openly condemned the practices at RYR is the ECA. Kudo's to them!
Having said that, if they really want to change their working conditions. NOW is the time to act and you have my full support! (For whatever that is worth.) An increase in T&C's in one of Europe's biggest aviation "employer" is good for the whole industry.
And also thumbs up for the cabin crewmembers who are stepping up. Compared to how they are treated the pilots are treated like little princesitas.
IALPA should in my view come out with a statement as RYR is the biggest AOC holder in Ireland. The only association who as openly condemned the practices at RYR is the ECA. Kudo's to them!
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What’s happening at Ryanair will simply not go away, regardless of what the pilots do, as Ryanair have exhausted their supply of experienced pilots who are willing to accept rubbish T&Cs.
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I tend to agree and it’s only a matter of time before investors figure that out, some already have; one pension fund has already sold €300m worth of shares.
What’s happening at Ryanair will simply not go away, regardless of what the pilots do, as Ryanair have exhausted their supply of experienced pilots who are willing to accept rubbish T&Cs.
What’s happening at Ryanair will simply not go away, regardless of what the pilots do, as Ryanair have exhausted their supply of experienced pilots who are willing to accept rubbish T&Cs.
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It gets worse: BBC lunchtime TV news says more cancellations, few thousand flights, 30-something routes closed for winter.
Edit: oh, cross-posted with post just above, more detail there
Edit: oh, cross-posted with post just above, more detail there
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With this new cancellations it looks like the efforts of the pilots and cabin crew is getting noticed. First in the news, then at the stock exchange and finally at the negotiating table. So keep up the good work guys and gals!
I see in that article they are still not admitting to the fact it’s a pilot shortage problem, still trying to divert attention at make it seems like it’s too do will annual leave. Any punter with have a brain cell will see through it though, if you haven’t enough staff to cover annual leave; then bottom line is you haven’t enough staff!
That seemed to me to go well beyond over-simplification. Add it to O'Leary's comments about 18 hours not bring hard work and so on, and there seem to be efforts by some to shape opinions of the proportion of the population that tend to be mainly anti-union etc
On the other hand, all of the show's preceding short video clips of cancelled passengers complaining showed them all criticising only the company.
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What’s happening at Ryanair will simply not go away, regardless of what the pilots do, as Ryanair have exhausted their supply of experienced pilots who are willing to accept rubbish T&Cs.
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So, as I saw on spanish news, there have been several cancellations due to 25 airplanes being shutdown/replaced until march 2018 or so. Obviusly, they don't say anything at all about pilot shortage or any kind of negotiation within the company.
One thing to be pointed out is that, spanish tv has also re-emited the reportage about ryanair workers, their undercovered bad situation, etc... I'd gladly read news about an enhance on their roasters/salary/overaltreatmen as a result of everything that is happening right now.
One thing to be pointed out is that, spanish tv has also re-emited the reportage about ryanair workers, their undercovered bad situation, etc... I'd gladly read news about an enhance on their roasters/salary/overaltreatmen as a result of everything that is happening right now.
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Hi,
I wrote several of The Guardian's stories about the pilot/crew dispute with Ryanair last week.
A colleague has done an early version of our story about the latest cancellations, affecting 400k passengers.
I'm now looking to add to the story and expand upon it. I'm most interested in whether there could be more cancellations if pilots don't succeed in securing improved terms.
Last week, Ryanair flat out denied there would be any more cancellations and yet here we are.
What to pilots think about this latest development? Have we seen the last of cancelled flights? What else am I missing?
I wrote several of The Guardian's stories about the pilot/crew dispute with Ryanair last week.
A colleague has done an early version of our story about the latest cancellations, affecting 400k passengers.
I'm now looking to add to the story and expand upon it. I'm most interested in whether there could be more cancellations if pilots don't succeed in securing improved terms.
Last week, Ryanair flat out denied there would be any more cancellations and yet here we are.
What to pilots think about this latest development? Have we seen the last of cancelled flights? What else am I missing?