Ryanair Cancelling flights!
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A principle...... , sadly completely non existent in the Ryanair management philosophy.
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I implore all fr drivers, all types of contracts, join your local associations.
This is our time, and its clear what is happening in stn is not indicative of the masses, just the few that are keeping the norm.
This is our time, and its clear what is happening in stn is not indicative of the masses, just the few that are keeping the norm.
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Look we must all have it wrong. It is O'Leary who is underpaid.
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As and ex-miner and current heavy Boeing TRI/TRE, it's clear to me that you haven't done your homework smith. Mining fatality statistics vary by region (as do those in aviation) and are available online for fact checking before posting.
Comparing a miner's remuneration to that of a pilot, is like comparing a janitor's to an accountant's.
Comparing a miner's remuneration to that of a pilot, is like comparing a janitor's to an accountant's.
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No sign of high sickness or a sudden work to rule just yet then? This opportunity will soon be missed. This man surely knows he's got everyone by the balls??? 400 aircraft, nearly 100 million pax and a very, very rich man! He clearly has lots of powerful and rich friends Who take on those that can't and daren't fight back, "his staff"!!! These guys are the pits of society and the very lowest of the low! A real life 21st Century "SCROOGE"! Ryanair have never had it so good with all this press coverage! And just a bloody nose in return. So what happens next? I'd go down the "Paddy Power" betting shop and place a few Irish Euros on the result being "business as usual"! Now doesn't O'Leary have a stake in Paddy Power? This is no different to MacDonalds, Costa Coffee, Amazon etc etc, exploitation "within the so called LAW"! Now how do you go about changing that?
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IMHO what is s scary is if the plots & cabin crew back down and do not improve matters during this, they might expect the mother of all retribution to descend upon them and T's & C's reduce even further. Their mettle will have been tested and found wanting. We must hope that doesn't happen.
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No sign of high sickness or a sudden work to rule just yet then? This opportunity will soon be missed. This man surely knows he's got everyone by the balls??? 400 aircraft, nearly 100 million pax and a very, very rich man! He clearly has lots of friends verses the minority, "his staff"!!! Ryanair have never had it so good with all this press coverage! And just a bloody nose in return. So what happens next? I'd go down the "Paddy Power" betting shop and place a few Irish Euros on the result being "business as usual"! Now doesn't O'Leary have a stake in Paddy Power? This is no different to MacDonalds, Costa Coffee, Amazon etc etc, exploitation "within the so called LAW"! Now how do you go about changing that?
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Are any wheels in motion by the pilots at any of the bases? Hear a lot of meetings are going on - just hope you all support each other, if things don't change now management know they can do whatever they damn like going into the future.
Best of luck to all staff and their families - you have support of all pilots worldwide
Best of luck to all staff and their families - you have support of all pilots worldwide
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Dear All
I would like to point out that RYR would not be were they are now if it was not for all the pilots that payed for the typerating .
That is now the industry standard.
It would not be like this if it was not for you.
So this is the time for YOU , that helped RYR and the other greedy LOC CEOs ,to make amends.
Support your local ALPA and help us make RYR a great place to work, like South West.
That will make for a safe and prosperous company. Not only for RYR.
But for all the wannabe LOCOs in Europe and the rest of the world.
And for Gods sake : Put on a proper uniform so I can tell the difference between you and a Cadet! ( sorry, just had to add that)
The fact that you payed for your Type rating does not make you a traitor to me, but if You dont act now,,,,,,
Well then it is up for review!
I have held back on this for a long time, but this is the truth and historic fact!
Putting on my old helmet and standing by for incoming!
Good luck to all.
That is now the industry standard.
It would not be like this if it was not for you.
So this is the time for YOU , that helped RYR and the other greedy LOC CEOs ,to make amends.
Support your local ALPA and help us make RYR a great place to work, like South West.
That will make for a safe and prosperous company. Not only for RYR.
But for all the wannabe LOCOs in Europe and the rest of the world.
And for Gods sake : Put on a proper uniform so I can tell the difference between you and a Cadet! ( sorry, just had to add that)
The fact that you payed for your Type rating does not make you a traitor to me, but if You dont act now,,,,,,
Well then it is up for review!
I have held back on this for a long time, but this is the truth and historic fact!
Putting on my old helmet and standing by for incoming!
Good luck to all.
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INteresting links
RYR ? waiting for the other shoe to drop « cockpitseeker
and
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ares-1.3110409
was he preparing for it ? is it legal ?
RYR ? waiting for the other shoe to drop « cockpitseeker
and
https://www.irishtimes.com/business/...ares-1.3110409
was he preparing for it ? is it legal ?
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Ryanair pilots - Your time is "RIGHT NOW"! A one off chance to save not only your own terms and conditions but this whole industry from being ruined by one smug bugger of an Irishman with a bloody great ego and his airline that has slowly brought down Ts & Cs across the UK Airline industry! And why? Because other CEOs are following his example and getting away with it! This "rush to the bottom" didn't just happen, Ryanair started it, EasyJet followed and slowly but surely others are following by example. Worst of all, he's got away with it! Ryanair might have more passengers than most other UK airlines put together and a fleet that will number over 500 in the next few years but at what cost? Only you can be the judge of that! Pilot Ts & Cs will never recover if this is allowed to continue. You might as well have Donald Trump running your airline!!! As for pilot representation - words fail me! Without BALPA it could have been much worse for the rest of us, well just like Ryanair in fact! Just ask any Thomas Cook pilot right now!
Dreamers
I started off with a flag carrier where one of the union reps sold us out and went straight into management..this was after a near strike which led to Britian's worse disaster and an airline that lost seven hulls in the six years I worked for them. Few appeared at the public inquiry and the main witness was drummed out of the airline and went on to work for club Med teaching sailing dinghys.
I eventually joined The European Airline..fantastic salary,conditions and pension. A loco was set up without our standards and on my post command course I witnessed a fellow captain haranguing the chief pilot about safety. He was taken aside and read the riot act. The loco subsequently lost two aircraft through pilot error.
A colleague took the airline to court as some of us hadn't had leave for eighteen months and won (local law minimum of two weeks leave). Another colleague failed him on a sim check so they could sack him.
The airline decided to replace 25% of the fleet within less than a year which lead to a massive pilot shortage..most of the trainers resigned but there are always your mates who will dump on you.
We had managers resign and some who were sacked who refused to comply with some of the sh&t descending from above.
End result airline went skint and loco carried on..not forgetting that the morons voted for one of our ex chief pilots to run the pension fund.
I fly with Ryaniar and mostly it's a better product than my first employer from whom I receive a small pension. I avoid them. The exception was nearly two weeks ago on the day after my flight was cancelled to Nice where the captain was a disgrace as said zero after the precabin briefing in spite of sitting on the taxiway in dublin for 15 minutes. Professional ..no way.
I also have some contact with a very experienced avaitor whom I respect and has insider information that Ryaniar standards are very high.
Yes I will continue to fly with them even though I have the ackkers to go elsewhere. I do have no fly operators.
I don't expect that the majority of the pilots will take action because (we) are a self centred bunch.
I note that the FR pilot didn't mention top end salaries on the radio interview...hundred plus grand after tax? For 5 on 4 off...yes please.
Command after four years! Took me and a lot of my mates twenty years...and we were professionals!
And don't forget the tax fiddle for Brits who live in frog but fly out of the uk!
I eventually joined The European Airline..fantastic salary,conditions and pension. A loco was set up without our standards and on my post command course I witnessed a fellow captain haranguing the chief pilot about safety. He was taken aside and read the riot act. The loco subsequently lost two aircraft through pilot error.
A colleague took the airline to court as some of us hadn't had leave for eighteen months and won (local law minimum of two weeks leave). Another colleague failed him on a sim check so they could sack him.
The airline decided to replace 25% of the fleet within less than a year which lead to a massive pilot shortage..most of the trainers resigned but there are always your mates who will dump on you.
We had managers resign and some who were sacked who refused to comply with some of the sh&t descending from above.
End result airline went skint and loco carried on..not forgetting that the morons voted for one of our ex chief pilots to run the pension fund.
I fly with Ryaniar and mostly it's a better product than my first employer from whom I receive a small pension. I avoid them. The exception was nearly two weeks ago on the day after my flight was cancelled to Nice where the captain was a disgrace as said zero after the precabin briefing in spite of sitting on the taxiway in dublin for 15 minutes. Professional ..no way.
I also have some contact with a very experienced avaitor whom I respect and has insider information that Ryaniar standards are very high.
Yes I will continue to fly with them even though I have the ackkers to go elsewhere. I do have no fly operators.
I don't expect that the majority of the pilots will take action because (we) are a self centred bunch.
I note that the FR pilot didn't mention top end salaries on the radio interview...hundred plus grand after tax? For 5 on 4 off...yes please.
Command after four years! Took me and a lot of my mates twenty years...and we were professionals!
And don't forget the tax fiddle for Brits who live in frog but fly out of the uk!
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There is still no sign that the public at large give a monkeys about any of this - apart from those directly affected who are rightly livid about it.
Everyone I know books with this operator. They know what is going on, they know the risk to being stranded or cancelled, and they ALL, to a person, still book with them.
Because they are the cheapest.
This will change if and when they have to put prices up.
It's exactly the same as selling cheap milk. Why do people buy it? Price. They don't care where it comes from; how the cows are treated; the effect on the people who work in the industry; where the profits go. It's just cheap - and it works better than any other form of marketing.
End of.
Everyone I know books with this operator. They know what is going on, they know the risk to being stranded or cancelled, and they ALL, to a person, still book with them.
Because they are the cheapest.
This will change if and when they have to put prices up.
It's exactly the same as selling cheap milk. Why do people buy it? Price. They don't care where it comes from; how the cows are treated; the effect on the people who work in the industry; where the profits go. It's just cheap - and it works better than any other form of marketing.
End of.
And don't forget the tax fiddle for Brits who live in frog but fly out of the uk!
Now back to the thread.....
