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Samba I’m going to guess that you have never worked for a Uk based charter airline? Random roster all summer with very few weekend days off, night flights, short notice roster changes etc etc.This is commonplace in the UK.
My experience exactly mirrors that of Pumal1w. I guess my username reveals my former employer but I know that other UK charter operators have similar rostering issues.
There are are many things to moan about in RYR but in my experience the fixed roster is definitely not one of them.
Obviously the charter airline summer carnage is mainly a Northern European phenomenon and it may well be that our colleagues in Southern Europe have superior rostering practices. I should also point out that I have been extremely fortunate not to have to commute which obviously results on a more pleasant work/life balance.
My experience exactly mirrors that of Pumal1w. I guess my username reveals my former employer but I know that other UK charter operators have similar rostering issues.
There are are many things to moan about in RYR but in my experience the fixed roster is definitely not one of them.
Obviously the charter airline summer carnage is mainly a Northern European phenomenon and it may well be that our colleagues in Southern Europe have superior rostering practices. I should also point out that I have been extremely fortunate not to have to commute which obviously results on a more pleasant work/life balance.
But I agree so far that 5/4 is one of the few good things(and I need 2 of this 4 off days just to recover from my "pleasant" 5 days on). And being more or less every day with my family(which is only true for those of us who managed to get the base of their choice. On Commuting this job is a nightmare). Nothing more.
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Last block of your comment - ermmm, hell no. Southern Europe is the same crap as northern Europe if not even worse. How would you come to this conclusion? The south does a s**tload of flights up north, combined with internal routes. So no, no beer/vine while laying on my pool doing nothing. Only thing that is true as well for the south - we have as well 5/4. Nothing else. You mistake bases doing only mid range flights(and for this reason ending up with only 2 sectors/day) with the GENERAL situation in all southern bases.
But I agree so far that 5/4 is one of the few good things(and I need 2 of this 4 off days just to recover from my "pleasant" 5 days on). And being more or less every day with my family(which is only true for those of us who managed to get the base of their choice. On Commuting this job is a nightmare). Nothing more.
But I agree so far that 5/4 is one of the few good things(and I need 2 of this 4 off days just to recover from my "pleasant" 5 days on). And being more or less every day with my family(which is only true for those of us who managed to get the base of their choice. On Commuting this job is a nightmare). Nothing more.
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What do you mean by confirmed? Although the active week is confirmed, they still can make changes! So I wouldn't really count on that.
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Hummmm... DH on day off? Then it's not a day off! Because on a day off I am free to do whatever I want and to choose wherever I go. Tell me you get overtime pay for that (day off rate)?
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So its 'fixed' 5/4, unless they need you to deadhead and then its not. Only the active week is confirmed so can you potentially lose your day off with a weeks notice then? I was hoping things might have got better with the union recognition.
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Yep, again the DH might happen in your 5 working days and lately that has been the case but if you out of base from a place with not so good connections then you might only be able to DH back on you day 1 off. You won't lose your days off for a flying duty including the ones out of the active week. If they roster you for that, just ask them politely to remove it and they will, don't have any choice really. The only time you only have 3 days off and work 6 days is during your simulator week, twice a year.
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Yep, again the DH might happen in your 5 working days and lately that has been the case but if you out of base from a place with not so good connections then you might only be able to DH back on you day 1 off. You won't lose your days off for a flying duty including the ones out of the active week. If they roster you for that, just ask them politely to remove it and they will, don't have any choice really. The only time you only have 3 days off and work 6 days is during your simulator week, twice a year.
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A couple of facts that we are probably all familiar with but just in case;
In FR;
1. DH on days off shouldn't happen
2. Days off are days off!
3. 5/4 is inifinitum except 6/3 twice a year.
4. Pilots will be pilots..........
5. Rostering depts will be rostering depts and chance their arm.......
When I come across a pilot that's positioned on a day off or been rostered for something odd outside the norm 5/4, I ask did you complain/point it out and get it changed?
Pilots response;
1. Didn't want to rock the boat got my command coming up.
2. Didn't want to rock the boat hoping to my transfer to Malaga/Alicante/Tenerife etc
3. Didn't want to rock the boat at all.
4. Suited me - WHAT??
5. If I got it changed they might move my sim and I want it out of the way...
6. Im new so didn't want to rock the boat.
You get the idea. So we don't do ourselves any favours and rostering depts know how to play the game.
Personally anything odd or weird thats appeared on my roster has always been changed back to how it should be. But you have to ask!
In FR;
1. DH on days off shouldn't happen
2. Days off are days off!
3. 5/4 is inifinitum except 6/3 twice a year.
4. Pilots will be pilots..........
5. Rostering depts will be rostering depts and chance their arm.......
When I come across a pilot that's positioned on a day off or been rostered for something odd outside the norm 5/4, I ask did you complain/point it out and get it changed?
Pilots response;
1. Didn't want to rock the boat got my command coming up.
2. Didn't want to rock the boat hoping to my transfer to Malaga/Alicante/Tenerife etc
3. Didn't want to rock the boat at all.
4. Suited me - WHAT??
5. If I got it changed they might move my sim and I want it out of the way...
6. Im new so didn't want to rock the boat.
You get the idea. So we don't do ourselves any favours and rostering depts know how to play the game.
Personally anything odd or weird thats appeared on my roster has always been changed back to how it should be. But you have to ask!
Does FR still holds bases in Scandinavia? If yes, where and are those direct possibilities after TR training? Considering the possibility to relocate back to the North.
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scandi bases are deadman shoes, expect a 10yr wait as captain I would say unless there is some expansion there
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Yep, again the DH might happen in your 5 working days and lately that has been the case but if you out of base from a place with not so good connections then you might only be able to DH back on you day 1 off. You won't lose your days off for a flying duty including the ones out of the active week. If they roster you for that, just ask them politely to remove it and they will, don't have any choice really. The only time you only have 3 days off and work 6 days is during your simulator week, twice a year.
Another fantastic trend I discovered(at least it happened to me a few times) - they do not reach you on your off days(because they want you to fly) and I never answer company calls IN my off days sometimes they just decide to put a WOFF(working day off) in my roster. If I don't like it I have to start to deal with them. Again - I do not like to deal with people that do not give a s*** about what I need. Might it be operational(asking for a re-route that for sure would work but they prefer the cheaper route with a slot delay or a CI100 FPL and at best they decide to ignore that annoying stupid captain that simply should fly his tiny plane and should not bother dealing with the mothership) or any other requests that are out of the CLA.
All a big game here and I am tired of playing it.
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Hey ryanairrecruitment,
Has lauda motion any plans to open more bases?
whens it expected ryanair will open recruitment for DEC again and is this dependent on 737 max deliveries?
excellent idea communicating on this website thank you, one thing that can’t be said about ryanair is they pretend to be something they are not. Just keep the camel out of it
Has lauda motion any plans to open more bases?
whens it expected ryanair will open recruitment for DEC again and is this dependent on 737 max deliveries?
excellent idea communicating on this website thank you, one thing that can’t be said about ryanair is they pretend to be something they are not. Just keep the camel out of it
1 - Cadets - Hiring 650+ over the next 12 months
2 - Non - Type Rated FO's - No hiring indefinitely
3 - Non - Type Rated Captains - No hiring indefinitely
4 - Rated FOs - some hiring
5 - Rated Captains - will be reviewed early 2020
Our sister airline, Lauda Motion are currently recruiting rated and non-type rated captains for Vienna and Palma base for 2020 and a new base TBC - email [email protected] with ''Pilot Application'' in the subject bar to be considered.
Thanks
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Need a little clarification from RYR. Will you get paid after 8 weeks (typerating) or after 8 weeks + 3-4 months (linetraining)?