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Old 27th Apr 2019, 06:05
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Sounds like paradise!
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 08:44
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Ryanair commuting lifestyle

Hi all,

can you guys share how is commuting life working for Ryanair as a pilot?

thanks for your help
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:41
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I don’t commute, but talking to those who do if you are not lucky with your base the 5 on 4 off pattern effectively becomes 7 on 2 off.
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 09:50
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I have been assigned a base with daily and direct flights to my city(2 hours flight). What do you think?
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 12:43
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I understand that you have to live within an hour from base, is this during your 5 on period? Presumably you can do what you want in your own time?
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 19:13
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Correct. And commuting is generally uncomplicated (as it should be). However, I do get a bit irritated by colleagues who position in and then operate after little or no rest, and are about as sharp as a balloon on day one. It risks a crack down like what has happened at BA.

Anyway, the key to a happy life at Ryanair is to live as close possible to base.
I've also been recommended this for when I start, travelling to work only makes fatigue worse so make sure to stay close to the airport and I would imagine you would be less fatigued
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Old 28th Apr 2019, 22:04
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Originally Posted by midnight cruiser
Correct. And commuting is generally uncomplicated (as it should be). However, I do get a bit irritated by colleagues who position in and then operate after little or no rest, and are about as sharp as a balloon on day one. It risks a crack down like what has happened at BA.

Anyway, the key to a happy life at Ryanair is to live as close possible to base.
The key is to fly in the closest base to your home that usually have 2 sectors. If not you are death, 4 sectors every day in the 737 with 24 min turnaround? When you arrive to your home you don’t want even to see the face of your wife. You just think in eat something and sleep like a babe for the next day 4 sector day. Specially if you are on earlies.

you can do that 3/4 years??

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Old 29th Apr 2019, 01:43
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Experiencing long duty periods, but not being productive is as fatiguing . multi sectors, then a drive to the 3* hotel then more sectors the next day. with hours transits at base. Then amaybe a red eye the next evening..

The guys at my employer are keen for a ryanair style of roster. No one here’s afraid to graft, as long as the time off compensates .

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Old 29th Apr 2019, 02:42
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Yes, the roster is perfect. And it’s no more 900h / year. They hired so many cadets last 2 years, that in average you fly 60 hours / month. At least as an F/O, don’t know how it is for skippers though.
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:03
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Originally Posted by Rendy
Yes, the roster is perfect. And it’s no more 900h / year. They hired so many cadets last 2 years, that in average you fly 60 hours / month. At least as an F/O, don’t know how it is for skippers though.
men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:54
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Originally Posted by samca


men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!
It probably suits some people, haven't heard of anyone working 5/4 being killed by the roster
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 07:59
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Originally Posted by samca
men the roster is perfect? Come onnn! Are you serious? The roster 5/4 flying 900 hours per year with lot of days of 4 sectors in a Boeing 737NG with 1.678.673 Ryanair SOPs every sector, kills you. Simple!
Nothing like flying 899:59 a year and landing at 6am after flying redeyes with your current employer, right, samca?

Hundreds of new cadets every year manage Ryanair SOPs just fine, so experienced pilot like you should have no problem with that, right?

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Old 29th Apr 2019, 12:56
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Originally Posted by brushcounsel
Nothing like flying 899:59 a year and landing at 6am after flying redeyes with your current employer, right, samca?

Hundreds of new cadets every year manage Ryanair SOPs just fine, so experienced pilot like you should have no problem with that, right?
I never landed at 6am. Even 4 so I cannot answer that question for now.
yes maybe is the problem that experienced pilots don’t know how to manage the fatigue and cadets are experts. Or maybe cadets are brand new in this world and they don’t manage fatigue yet.... who knows but anyway if they are happy that is the important I’m happy for them 😊
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Old 29th Apr 2019, 19:17
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One more question guys,

Is it true with the new contract, you can split the 20 vacation days in 5 days 4 times? I know that with the 10 Ad Hoc days you can, but not sure about the 20 vacations days.

Thanks again
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 05:53
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Originally Posted by aircowboy
One more question guys,

Is it true with the new contract, you can split the 20 vacation days in 5 days 4 times? I know that with the 10 Ad Hoc days you can, but not sure about the 20 vacations days.

Thanks again
Correct, 20 days split in 4 blocks of 5 days (13 days free per block of annual leave) at least in the italian contract. Ad hoc leave are 9 days (not 10) and 1 day is mandatory assigned by the company on 25th of december. Happy landing
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 08:23
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Any idea if in Spain is also like that?
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 14:06
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Originally Posted by aircowboy
Any idea if in Spain is also like that?
I would like to know as well!
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Old 30th Apr 2019, 14:41
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Originally Posted by aircowboy
Any idea if in Spain is also like that?
No, it is not.
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Old 1st May 2019, 13:40
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Originally Posted by SpainHire
No, it is not.
Thank you for your reply!
Could you also tell us if it's a full local contract (like in Italy), or if it's an Irish contract that follows the Spanish law? And do they ask you to open a bank account in Ireland to get your pay?
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Old 1st May 2019, 16:44
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Originally Posted by Newcomer2


Thank you for your reply!
Could you also tell us if it's a full local contract (like in Italy), or if it's an Irish contract that follows the Spanish law? And do they ask you to open a bank account in Ireland to get your pay?
It is an Irish contract that does not follow the Spanish law.
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