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Agreed the public won’t base their travel choice on strike-unless it were safety-related which it wasn’t. But passengers DO choose to fly with a brand they recognise with an experienced U.K. regulated operation and pilots. Would they have chosen to fly with a small airline in a former-Soviet republic operating far from its regulator with a business model which hinges on high turnover of very low-paid pilots?
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Agreed the public won’t base their travel choice on strike-unless it were safety-related which it wasn’t. But passengers DO choose to fly with a brand they recognise with an experienced U.K. regulated operation and pilots. Would they have chosen to fly with a small airline in a former-Soviet republic operating far from its regulator with a business model which hinges on high turnover of very low-paid pilots?
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In which case why don’t they fly under their own branding so passengers can make an informed choice? I’ve nothing against Smartlynx as such, but holiday-makers are being conned that they are flying on a Thomas Cook aircraft
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Note 1. It is not uncommon for passengers not to actually know where on the planet they are actually bound for!
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You are correct in your assessment of passenger apathy.
Passengers remain indifferent even when 100% of the pilots and flight attendants are outsourced and have no employment relationship the airline. Unions in the US are demanding this information be disclosed to passengers at ticket purchase. No US airline operates with 100% outsourced crews, ACMI replacements are seldom used.
Passengers remain indifferent even when 100% of the pilots and flight attendants are outsourced and have no employment relationship the airline. Unions in the US are demanding this information be disclosed to passengers at ticket purchase. No US airline operates with 100% outsourced crews, ACMI replacements are seldom used.
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That's good to hear, usual own goals. As much as I deplore the attempt to reduce t&c's within the group by inventing TCBals, I'd far rather fly on a jet that had at least some oversight and investment from the main airline group, than the aforesaid ACMI's, which I would not fly on by choice. TCBals will struggle in the current recruitment climate, but I suspect it is the shape of the group airline of the future.
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If you look at US market, all regional operations are in fact outsourced to Skywest and alike, who operating hundreds(!) of aircraft on the contracts which are a mix of ACMI and charter nature. Skywest alone is 400+ aircraft, Europe is a far cry compared to that.
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There is always smoke with fire , but I never trust the media ! They add viscous rumours to sell a story , detrimental to the employees
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The uncertainty is the worst part, and the company don't tell us anything! Not even reassuring us.
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Hope it all works out for you guys. Was reading today about payment companies withholding the dish from tickets, that is a nightmare for short term liquidity
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Direct bookings for flights-only on thomascookairlines.com are not having payments withheld, thankfully.
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Alot of the media reporting is borderline hysterical and not helpful. However the company need to be a bit more active in correcting this before it takes hold. Airline sale needs to happen sooner not later.
No, it’s just in the Nordics. And they are not at this point withholding payment. They are in talks with Thomas cook about an extension to terms.
Hopefully it won’t come to that.
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Good luck with educating the public. These days, too many powerful forces want to keep the public‘s eyes shut in many regards. And, largely owning the mass media, they have been doing pretty well so far.
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