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LEVEL: New Low Cost long haul from IAG Group

Old 1st Apr 2017, 16:23
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Originally Posted by papazulu View Post
Hell, no it isn't. You want airlines to step up their game and pay up top dollar but you can't be bothered to improve your language skills? Love your attitude, macho...

I suggest you get better in typing your thoughts in an international language that should be anyway a tool of your trade, then get your facts right and finally come back to expose them.
Yeap I know, my grammar is a disaster but I'm not worried promise you. Most of the colleagues from UK I usually fly with understand me perfectly. Anyway do not deviate from the issue... Iberia working conditions are very poor, level 11 salary table is what it is and so...
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Old 1st Apr 2017, 21:22
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So you were interested in getting into Iberia Express but not in to Iberia...yea I see...
This post is full of Spanish people working for LCC or for South American Airlines looking for a new job and mean time talking nonsense.

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Old 2nd Apr 2017, 02:58
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The funny thing is that both RYR and EZY have become a sort of "legacy LCC's" offering pretty decent conditions (pay, rosters, training ) in comparison to what is now offered currently by new LCC's... oh, the irony!
Low Ts and Cs only work for a short while, After the guys who went there for experience get it and go, and then bad mouth their employer so no one else joins. It's not really ironic that the first to adopt this policy now have half decent terms - they realised that if they were to survive, they have to pay. They get their pound of flesh from their employees in other ways, such as productivity.

Nevertheless, we see start-up LoCos testing the bottom with crappy Ts and Cs and it seems pilots are not biting - or even available - just look at the number of job ads Small Planet push out. The LoCos will continue to test the limit, but it seems like the number of pilots willing to take up these jobs is reducing.
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Old 25th Jun 2017, 16:33
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Interesting article here, see Iberia Pilots are doing LEVEL until the end of this year, anyone know if they're going to open up recruitment for 2018?

Link here - Iberia pilots will vote this friday the agreement of sepla on level | Spaintrips.org

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Old 26th Jun 2017, 08:18
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Personally I think at some stage, passengers will become sick and tired of being treated like cattle. Up to this point, all most people care about seems to be the price of the ticket. But there comes a point when everybody loses patience. We haven't reached it yet but we may not be far away.

As airlines strip more and more away from their product in order to reduce costs, and demoralised staff are unwilling or unable to meet customer service expectations, there may yet be an opportunity for those airlines willing to invest in a proper product. Even if they have to charge more for it.
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Old 26th Jun 2017, 22:40
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Found another article, the paragraph copied below is particularly interesting, does anyone know when LEVEL will start recruitment? -

"LEVEL's corporate structure and management is still evolving. For now, LEVEL is using Iberia pilots and cabin crew and flights operate under an IB code.

This required IAG to reach an agreement with Iberia pilots, which was was signed between Sindicato Espanol de Pilotos de Lineas Aereas (Spanish Airline Pilots Union – SEPLA) delegates and Iberia in May-2017, to last until 31-Dec-2017. Although using staff from Iberia, LEVEL pilots' annual working hours limit has been raised to 900 hours from 850 at Iberia.

Nevertheless, after its initial phase IAG plans to establish LEVEL as a stand alone company with a new corporate structure. It will eventually have its own AOC and, presumably, recruit its own staff."
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Old 27th Jun 2017, 11:46
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Agree NM. I, for one, am willing to pay extra for a decent service, especially on Long Haul. I personally think it is a mistake for the legacy carriers around the world (stand fast the US, where some legacy carriers have re-introduced certain 'service factors') to be stripping out their core service. Only time will tell and I guess a lot depends on the state of the world economy moving forward.
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 18:35
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Looks like LEVEL could be a big airline in future if that CAPA article accurate. Would love to know if they're going to recruit externally soon. I heard it will be Iberia, BA or Aer Lingus pilots until they have their own AOC though.
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 19:08
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Don't want to be negative here, but given the contract IB offered to the last intake..can you even begin to imagine what they will offer at the low cost sister??
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Old 29th Jun 2017, 20:07
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Bringback oh not good. I'd heard it was IB mainline contract initially, you know what the t's and c's are like? Pay, roster etc...
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Old 11th Jul 2017, 03:49
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Found this interesting

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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 11:25
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Anybody hear anything on the recruitment front?

Every now and then there seems to be an articule saying how successful they are and that they are about to start new bases, AOC etc.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 15:30
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Plenty of internal recruitment within IAG aparently. Pilots are Iberia for now.
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Old 2nd Nov 2017, 17:51
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Any idea If they plan external recruitment for bases outside of Spain?
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