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Aprils fool! EZ and FR pilots does not make more than SK core pilots. But hard to compare, given that SK pilots have a fixed monthly salery, and the rest has a variable pay depending on their schedule. But how do you know all this BS you come up with?
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By looking at my own paycheck and comparing it with those of friends flying for FR and EZ, and DY for that matter. No BS, hard facts. If you don’t know any better than to call BS on things you obviously know nothing about, it’s better to stick a sock in it.
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Did you fly anywhere else than SAS professionally so that you know for sure what you are always talking about?
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How come they offer 6/3 pattern for captains but 5/4 for FOs? (According to Parcs recruitment adds on their website.)
Is it’s due to the massive amount of unemployed A320 captains that CAE exclusively knows about, or is it something else in this?
Anyone with insight about London base? Is there a balance with the crew vs aircrafts yet?
Is it’s due to the massive amount of unemployed A320 captains that CAE exclusively knows about, or is it something else in this?
Anyone with insight about London base? Is there a balance with the crew vs aircrafts yet?
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And how many scheduled block hours did you use in your comparison? You are quite the expert in comparing apples and pears, and nagging about the worst of both fruits Did you fly anywhere else than SAS professionally so that you know for sure what you are always talking about?
You do about the same amount of hours in both outfits. The way you're paid is very different between them two. In terms of net money, Ryanair wins over the course of a career (as of today). If you compare the full package, it throws things around a bit and many perks come just from living in Scandinavian with free this free that..
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It’s a bit sad where SAS has transformed into during the past years.
With multi-union system in Scandinavia failing to negotiate with the company the results are obvious. All the young guys sold out by older colleagues, B-scales created, even more subcontractors with social dumping etc.
With multi-union system in Scandinavia failing to negotiate with the company the results are obvious. All the young guys sold out by older colleagues, B-scales created, even more subcontractors with social dumping etc.
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Take it from someone who's tried both....
You do about the same amount of hours in both outfits. The way you're paid is very different between them two. In terms of net money, Ryanair wins over the course of a career (as of today). If you compare the full package, it throws things around a bit and many perks come just from living in Scandinavian with free this free that..
You do about the same amount of hours in both outfits. The way you're paid is very different between them two. In terms of net money, Ryanair wins over the course of a career (as of today). If you compare the full package, it throws things around a bit and many perks come just from living in Scandinavian with free this free that..
No doubt Scandinavian salaries are ok, however SAS Ireland is a totally separate company and things are very sub standard salary and t&c wise. Way below current industry standards.
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To compound their issues, they will no doubt imminently haemorrhage further pilots to BA and Easyjet, once they start sending offers out.
All these shady outfits have been trying their luck since the demise of Monarch and Air Berlin and now they're realising people are waking up and smelling the coffee, after the initial shock.
All these shady outfits have been trying their luck since the demise of Monarch and Air Berlin and now they're realising people are waking up and smelling the coffee, after the initial shock.
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Offering a Part Time Roster with 5/4/5/13 for a start-up airline that is started with the sole purpose of being cheaper for the owners, should be evidence that they are having a hard time finding "willing, able, suitable" candidates. There are MANY job offers for A320 drivers out there - why should anyone opt for the one with crap conditions?
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Offering a Part Time Roster with 5/4/5/13 for a start-up airline that is started with the sole purpose of being cheaper for the owners, should be evidence that they are having a hard time finding "willing, able, suitable" candidates. There are MANY job offers for A320 drivers out there - why should anyone opt for the one with crap conditions?
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2 - You got rejected elsewhere.
Regarding the new order of new A320s from SAS, anything mentioned about how many that will be deployed to SAIL?
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Offering a Part Time Roster with 5/4/5/13 for a start-up airline that is started with the sole purpose of being cheaper for the owners, should be evidence that they are having a hard time finding "willing, able, suitable" candidates. There are MANY job offers for A320 drivers out there - why should anyone opt for the one with crap conditions?
And just to clarify my previous post, I was of course talking about the salary in core Scandi vs. Ryanair...
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List five or more then? I and many other A320 drivers are looking hard to find the many you are talking about... And I am talking about jobs for first officers :-))
And just to clarify my previous post, I was of course talking about the salary in core Scandi vs. Ryanair...
And just to clarify my previous post, I was of course talking about the salary in core Scandi vs. Ryanair...
2) BA/IAG
3) Aer Lingus
4) Lufthansa/Eurowings
5) Air France
6) WOW
7) Wizz
8) Agean
...for starters -and that’s just in Europe
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Probably not. Aegean I don’t know to be honest. Wizz is probably similar whilst the rest are better. easyJet should be a non brainer but then again if you failed to get in (of which I’m certain) you’re stuck with the desperate operators such as SAIL. Anyone can get a typerating these days...
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Politics aside...
In mainline SAS we are now doing LHR flights AND layovers in Malaga, management admits that staffing resources in mainline are limited because of this - can anybody on the inside at SAIL shed light on the current staffing situation at SAIL?
In mainline SAS we are now doing LHR flights AND layovers in Malaga, management admits that staffing resources in mainline are limited because of this - can anybody on the inside at SAIL shed light on the current staffing situation at SAIL?
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